Illegal Adoption for Angelina Jolie?

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Tatiana Beam (woman on the left) is the international adoption advocate who claims that Angelina Jolie is breaking Vietnamese adoption law that states couples who are unmarried are not allowed to adopt children from Vietnam. She said: "This is a clear contradiction of Vietnamese law, and such situations would not be allowed for other couples. Most co-habitating couples who try to adopt as a single parent are either turned away from agencies or face difficulties." What cave has this lady crawled out of that she is just realizing that people with power, money, and yes even celebrities receive special treatment? What she should be doing is praising Jolie for bringing positive attention to adoption and how it benefits the children instead of squabbling over Jolie's special treatment. Pick your battles! It's not like the kids are going to be locked up in cages in Ohio.
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171 Comments

I completely agree with you. This woman should be praising Jolie for bringing such positive attention to adopting children instead of just bashing her without knowing the full story.


let's hear what Jolie has to say about it.
But Angelina can rest knowing that no matter what she'll never receive the hate and criticism madonna did.


The woman is probably just giving Angelina a taste of her own medicine, since Angie was the one recently dissing Madonna for using illegal channels to adopt.


Angelina said that Madonna was probably doing an illegal adoption, and how she wouldn't do that, yet now she is! pot.kettle.black.

why don't they adopt an american child? there are plenty available!


Indeed... She is just doing this for publicity, and apparently she's getting it.


And about famous pelople getting special treatment, well, let's stop right there. It's not like Jolie will be showing her medals to get it, so let's not use that to fuel this woman's arguments.


FGS leave Jolie alone. The problem is not favors etc etc.. if damn adoption was made easier there would not be these loopholes/favours etc.Jolie is a great role model being with her kids most of her time.And she hardly parades herself as some kind of "heroine" of parentless children of the world .Adopting is far better option than the costly insanity of barren people wasting tons of money of IVF in a stance that they are"entitled " to have their own even when biology has said they cannot
This females anti Jolie rant sounds bitter jealous and twisted and seeking media spotlight.


ATTENTION! This woman is FRAUD, a hit job perpetrated on Angelina by PAGE SIX. It's all coming out too. 'PAGE SICK,' for their own wack reasons, have commissioned this character to malign Angelina and Brad and even interfere in an adoption process that is not even CLOSE to taking place yet! It's totally abhorrent what PAGE SIX is doing! CHECK IT OUT: Neither this woman's SO-CALLED "advocacy" for adoption, or even her name appear ANYWHERE on the web, in ANY capacity regarding adoption, EXCEPT in the TWO instances she's slammed Angelina on Page Six, bizarrely enough. She has never commented on anyone or anything other than the Angelina soundbites that for some reason, she's happily given to PAGE SIX. PAGE SIX has it out for Angelina, that's where the buck stops. I don't know if it's personal, OR if having seen the huge Madonna & 'Baby David' travesty and the publicity IT generated, they're just creaming to try and land Angelina in the middle of come adoption controversy of her own. It's one thing to COVER a story that's a debacle on it's own like the Malawi adoption, it's another to ACTIVELY seek out nefarious characters like this Beams person, and try to DISRUPT adoptions of impoverished orphans that haven't even happened yet! I hope PAGE SIX is washing their hands of this creep and their dirty tricks, real FAST like, as it's about to blow wide open. The ONLY thing that shows up for this Beams person, are about almost a thousand results/hits of her 2 nasty comments to Page Six regarding Angie's adoptions. THAT, is the extent of 'Tatiana Beams' so-called "Adoption Advocacy." When the b**tch gets investigated and scrutinized her damn self, and lawyers get brought in to this mess, she'll wish she hadn't ever heard of PAGE SIX (and vice versa) I do know that.


Tatiana Beam is just a Media Ho. She is using Angelina's name to get herself into the media. So what if she adopted 2 kids herself. Just because you did an adoption and isn't famous doesnt mean that you have to drag some ridiculous gabbage out about a non-issue to bring yourself into the news. Her actions tell everyone with some brain that she is a total media whore and is doing everything to get her name out in the public.

She is the one that goes with this fake news to all the tabliods and NYPOST, Page Six etc to get her trash known . All she wants is media attention and some backdoor pocket money. She is the worst kind of Mother anyone can imagine .

Just because she has adopted kids doesn't mean she is the voice of all adoptive parent . Surely she is a shame and disgrace to all adoptive parents who is embrassed by her actions and words against all the goodness Ms Angelina Jolie is doing .

I am totally disgusted by the action of this Beam woman


How could this Tatina call herself an international adoption advocate when the only thing you heard or read about her is her criticism on Angelina. At most she is just an adoptive mother, and has no advocacy whatsoever. Clearly she is using Angelina or publicity, being the most high-profile adoptive mother in the world.

And worst, she has now sold her pics to Splash! where is her credibilty? she is a Fraud!!!


She's being investigated as we speak. I hope she has her emigre papers in order. It's kind of stupid to be a lay person and kick up dust because of a dumb obsession with a celebrity, when you don't even have your own ducks in a row. If I were this woman, I'd disappear quick.


Who the F.u*k is this Beam woman ? She is nothing more than some illegal mail ordered bride who is took some kids illegally away from some Russians .. geesh ... see how easy it is to post trash and talk rubbish .. That is what Beam is doing


Please note if you do a Google search on Tatiana Beams, her name only comes up in relation to Angelina Jolie and Page Six. Since she is supposed to be an adoption advocate one would think she would have other results absent of her "expert" opinion of Angelina Jolie. She does not. What this tells me is that Ms. Beams has an agenda and only fits the Page Six definition of the word advocate and expert.

Back on January 11th, 2007 Page Six ran what was to me a clear smear campaign against Angelina accusing her of shady adoption practices. Not only did they quote Ms. Beams but they also quoted David B. Ptasnik, Director of Americans Adopting Orphans. AAO is an actual non-profit adoption agency specializing in international adoptions. AAO is based in Seattle, WA with a branch in St. Louis, MO. Ms. Beams, has no affiliation with any adoption agencies whatsoever. Mr. Ptasnik's quote was positive but Page Six clearly tried to twist his quote to appear negative. Well, on January 11th, I contacted Mr. Ptasnik via email and since he is a true adoption assistance provider/expert, he responded. This is what he had to say:
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Hello Faye,

Thank you for your interest in adoption.

Please note that I defended Ms. Jolie. I stated that at the time she adopted Maddox that there was no reasonable way she could have known that there was a problem with her agency. It was clear to me that the reporter was looking for a negative slant on the adoption and the controversy. I was glad that I was able to provide some balance to her report.

David B. Ptasnik, Director, mailto:aao@orphans.com
Americans Adopting Orphans
Providing Choice and Freedom for Your Adoption
__________________________

Please note Mr. Ptasnik says "it was clear to me that the reporter was looking for a negative slant on adoption and controversy."

And it is clear to me Page Six is once again starting a smear campaign against Angelina Jolie and looking for controversy where there is a good chance there is none. So my next question is how much did Tatiana Beams get paid for her so-called expert advice and continues to get paid to bash Angelina Jolie?


Well obviously this Beams woman doesn't know what she's talking about because Angelina is considered a single parent since she is not married and Vietman adoption law doesn't have anything against people with live in partners adopting.


Murdoch's rags tried to create trouble after Z was adopted and now they are trying to jump the gun and see what they can destroy before some poor child gets a chance at a new life. Meanwhile Tat's is enjoying her 2 minutes of fame with the NY rag. I would like to see her butt sued by the Jolie-Pitts.


Tatiana Beams WORKS with Dave Ptasnik you morons. Check out her website regarding it. You should all be so lucky to have a cause to work for. Good luck with your legal studies and your fantasy relationship with Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt! HA!

http://www.tatianabeams.com/news_info.html


I can't figure out what Angelina Jolie did wrong. Aren't the adoption agencies supposed to put all the stuff in order before they hand over the kid? Aren't they supposed to follow the laws?

Oh! I get it! It was the ADOPTION AGENCY that did the international law breaking dance! Thanks, Tatiana! I was all confused there for a while.


I did a search on Tatiana Beams, like you people told me to do. I couldn't find any quotes about how awful Angelina Jolie was for adopting babies. Where are those, please? It seams this Beams woman was pointing out that adoption laws were bent for a celebrity which, in effect, has made adoption rules much more stringent in the aftermath of the publicity. It also appears that she does know her stuff about international adoption laws. Huh. Could it be possible that Beams doesn't really care about Angelina Jolie, like the rest of you sycophants, but rather concerns herself with the plight of orphaned children who will now be unavailable for adoption because of the public exposure of the unethical adoption agencies representing Jolie? Could it just be that this woman has a humanitarian concern equal to Angie's?

I know I am supposed to hate this crazy Beams woman and call her names and make disparaging remarks about her quest for the limelight but I suspect - I may be wrong and if I am, I want all of you to set me straight - but I do suspect that she may have a point. I also think that it is not directed against Angelina Jolie but at the practices committed by nefarious adoptions agencies taking advantage of people, even people with the money and clout of a lovely and talented movie star. I guess that doesn’t leave much hope for average folks like you and me.

Oh, I do hope I'm wrong. It would be so much more fun to hop over the ignoramus fence to play in the Jolie Mud Pitt. (With sincere apologies to Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt and Russian mail-order brides everywhere)


Beams doesn't work with David Ptasnik she just calles him her "colleague." She says that he helped her with her adoptions and that she refers people to him and she claims to be friednly with him. Fine. None of that means she works with him or for him.

Beams was wrong that it is illegal for a single person who lives with another person to adopt in Vietnam. Beams seems to be trying to become an expert based on her personal experience adopting. That's laudable but she's not an "expert." She's just another parent who became knowledgable through her own experiences. The unmarried, cohabitating couple who she refers to and whom she is trying to help adopt a child from Vietnam is a GAY couple. That is illegal. She never comes out and says that but it is clear to me she means that and just dances around that very important fact. Vietnam is quite homophobic and good for her for trying to change that but she did falsely claim that Jolie was somehow breaking the law which is completely false. I like how she had to clarify her earlier statement although she's still not accurate about the law. Now she just says that area of the law is unresolved.

Look at her site and pictures. She so wants publicity.


Hi Phoebe: Actually, Dave Ptasnik handled my adoption case after a great deal of corruption was discovered by the original agency. I worked with him; he worked with and for me in this sense. I consider him my mentor and when I first spoke to the NY Post I told them to call him. I knew that he would give a very informed and fair answer. And he did. Angelina Jolie’s Cambodian Agency was very corrupt. As to whether she knew or not is unknown. And it really wasn’t the point. The point was that it is important to call out the corruption in adoption. That means the corrupt agencies and practices. This particular agency was very corrupt resulting in the Directors being sent to prison.

Regarding the couple I advised concerning a two-parent, unmarried adoption; they were and are actually straight. He is an attorney and she is a special education teacher. They have been together for over 10 years. Their application was denied before a home-study even began. The law regarding what is 'single' is vague at best and is all too often used to discriminate even against straight couples.

For the record, I never said Angelina was breaking the law. I am not quoted in the paper as saying such. I did say that it was a contradiction of the law and I stand by that in the sense that most un-married straight couples are not afforded such an opportunity. The law has been most commonly defined as 'single' meaning single as in not a two-parent family or living with someone. I guess it would have been better to say that the agencies themselves were contradicting their own definition of the law.

Anyway you look at it, I never said Angelina shouldn't adopt nor do I believe she shouldn’t adopt. What I believe is that there are thousands of Americans that want to adopt overseas and domestically. The system is complicated with many roadblocks. There is also a great deal of corruption. As I stated to the NY Post in January, I wish very much that Angelina would expose such issues and discuss it thus clearing the way for more opportunities for adoptive parents and children. Is it Ms. Jolie’s responsibility to discuss the issue? Absolutely not. I only thought that as a humanitarian, she might consider doing so as it does benefit the children when issues concerning International Adoption are discussed in an open debate.

Do I want publicity? No. How could I possibly benefit from it especially when I am shredded in Blogs like this? It's hurtful and it leaves me wondering why I work for this at all. I do not gain more clients by putting my name out there and I was hesitant to do so. Adoption is a very private and personal matter and by me discussing any aspect of it as it relates to my clients or to myself is a risk to that privacy. I must also state that I believe that Angelina Jolie’s adoption is a very private matter. The issues surrounding are not so private either because of an obsession by the media or by the never-ending quest from fans to see photos and read information about her. You have to ask yourselves just who is feeding the machine here.

I wasn't paid for my comments. This was never an attempt to smear one's name. I am only an adoptive parent with a great deal of experience in handling difficult cases. I am dedicated to the fight against the corrupt and criminal nature of adoption. As I stated on my website, I am just one person. I do not think that I am independently important nor do I want to be. This is a collective effort. I believe there are many advocating on behalf of International Adoption. I think different people have different issues for which they focus. That's a wonderful thing as no one owns the market as a whole when it comes to an issue or a location surrounding International Adoption. We can all do something. We can all make a difference.

Another issue to address concerning my quote that was something like ‘Angelina is not a hero to adoption;’ I stand by this as do many adoptive parents in my circle. No one is a hero when they adopt. This is a very important thing to understand. As soon as you are portrayed as a hero because you adopt, it immediately implies that your child is a victim. It suggests that you have somehow 'saved' the child. Any Adoption Agency will tell you that yes, it's wonderful that we are helping children but first and foremost, we are creating families. Most people enter an adoption because of their yearning to become a parent. I do believe that my children most likely have more opportunities by being raised in the United States but implying or having anyone imply to them that they are 'lucky' is a devastating burden for them to carry throughout their lives.

I never anticipated so much hate directed toward me. Although I have received a great deal of support from other parents, the assumptions made about me on various blogs have been hurtful and untrue. Every single person from the media who has ever contacted me receives a list of references. I would not do it any other way. I have spoken to a number of media outlets and usually refer them on to others who I believe will have better insight into the issue. People are afraid to address a celebrity adoption for fear of the backlash. The fans can be vicious without understanding the true intent. It’s important also to understand just how many celebrities adopt. There are many who have adopted children both here and overseas. Adoption is not limited to only those celebrities we see everyday, there are many who quietly move through the process. I think it’s wonderful when anyone adopts. I hope everyone understands this as they should also understand that there are thousands of ‘everyday’ Americans adopting each year and they should all be commended.

So do I think celebrities should receive preferential treatment when it comes to adoption? I’m not sure how to answer this. I suspect most don’t even know that their being moved ahead of the line and I would hope that if they did know, they would address it. There are many issues being discussed right now by other groups and press about procedures surrounding this adoption. One is the referral of child versus picking of the child and so forth. Currently, Vietnam does not allow one to ‘choose’ a child. It is based on referral only. There are parents out there wanting to know what is going on. I honestly do not know anything about this particular subject.

Anyway, I hope this clears some issues. And No I don’t live under a rock. Yes, I am in touch with the reality and privileges given to celebrities. Yes, I have a great deal of knowledge and experience in International Adoption. No, the NY Post didn’t pay me. And I think most importantly for you to know is that I actually find Angelina Jolie to be a very talented and beautiful actress who appears to be very kind. I have never stated anything to the contrary.

Oh yes, and about that picture above. ‘They’ cropped out my beautiful husband holding our beautiful son who happens to be Asian standing next to me.


Right on Tatiana, Eloquent, detailed, and straight up. It's not often that someone writes such a thoughtgful and considered response after being slimed. Continue your good works!


Tatiana, next time watch what you say to NYPOST, you started the slime with they way you were quoted. The couple you mentioned before were gay now they are straight and even then Vietnamese adoption law clearly stated they want single or married couple to apply, why it's hard for you to determine what is legally single or married is beyond me. You are the one who put yourself on blast and if you had listen to your mentor Dave, you would've known the Post just wanted to slime Angie and you played along. I don't feel sorry for you or pity you, you tried to make things difficult for another adopting mum. Karma is a bitch.


Excellent points Hope. This woman did not "clarify" and retract her comments until she was called out about them. Her motivations were and are obvious.

Tatiana, my question to you is why are you questioning this adoption when the likes of Sharon Stone is freely able to adopt blond, blue eyed American male children with ease? American's are on waiting lists sometimes over 10 yrs waiting for a child like that and yet Stone does it with ease and without question.

I wish no ill will to Ms. Stone but considering that some American's have gone overseas for adoption because it's next to impossible to adopt within the US like Stone I question where is the outrage or questioning over that.? Stone has gone on record as saying "this is what they give me" Highly unlikely and very suspicious to say the least.

Try concentrating there, you may actually do some good instead of focusing on Jolie for your own alterior motives


Tatiana, just stop it. If you were at all a professional person you wouldn't be trolling photo blogs and fan sites reading about and defending yourself. Creating a website and posting pictures of yourself hoping to get in the news and on television. You got your ass handed to you and now you're back tracking.

To actually post that it's unknown if Angelina Jolie knew the adoption agency in Seattle was using illegal means is just plain lazy. It proves the undercurrent to your message and motives.

Jolie's adoption of her son Maddox went under investigation when that place was closed down. Jolie's adoption was actually one of the few from that agency that was handled LEGALLY. Now, you should know this. Everyone knows this. It's a matter of public record. To intimate that it's up in the air and not certain is just plain morally wrong.

And as Hope has said upthread what is so difficult for you to understand the meaning of legally single, head of household or married? Check your IRS form they'll explain it to you.


Tatiana, I've never heard Angelina Jolie call herself an hero for adopting her children. What I've always heard from her was that her children saved her or made her a women (in the truest sense).

What I don't like about you is your claims of being an adoption expert when you clearly not. You're a parent that had an bad experience adopting and got help and past the information along to other and formed a support group.

Now, just like you Angie had an horrible time adopting Maddox and ran into the same problems, unbeknownst to her, you have with corrupted officials and agency, except being a celebrity those issues were brought to her attention through the media and corresponding oversight group, who made her jump thru hoops to comply with regulations.

Because of her UN work with children she does have the ability to network and find experts in related areas who inform her of those agencies that have good reputations.

But government agencies in other countries she has no control over and by releasing the name of the people who she works with and their agencies help inform other parents.

Now if you want to change the laws in this country to make it easier to adopt then do so and stop backstabbing innocent people because they're celebrity to highlight your agenda.


"People are afraid to address a celebrity adoption for fear of the backlash" yeah right, tell that to Madonna, and since everybody is so afraid it was up to you fearless Tatiana to stop Angelina's adoption in Vietnam, please do not make me laugh, no matter how much backtracking you do now, you were confrontational in the NYPost, they were determinated to smear Angelina and you were determinated to help them, and actions have consequences, if you are going to open your mouth an attack another human being that is trying to do some good in this world, be prepared to be attacked yourself. Good thing you do not want publicity because fortunaly for some of us your 15 minutes are up.


You do have to laugh at this lady. She thinks she's some mad model posing for Vogue.

Give me a break. She doesn't want publicity? Then how come Splash got her photo and posted this story well before she created her own website and uploaded the very same picture?


The interesting thing is that you (posting hatred) don't have a clue about what is going on. You act like she offended you when she spoke about adoption. You obviously have not read her post or her website. I gather you were probably only directed to this post from Tatiana Beams own website or by her in what she believed would helpful clarification . (who is trolling the posts?)

Your obsession with Angelina Jolie is unhealthy. Your lack of knowledge of the subject is extensive. Your hatred of Tatiana Beams is your own bad karma (ref above). Tatiana Beams works for the opening of adoption not against it. She has fought for families and children to be united. (I have spoken to them).

I was told by someone I work with to contact Tatiana Beams. First I wrote to her with a list of questions. She responded, then gave me her list of references and then told me to call them and her anytime. I didn't know what her motive was. I expected her to be sort of this crazy outspoken, self-righteous person. Instead I talked to someone surprisingly funny, very genuine and extremely warm. She was surprised by the response from Jolie fans in what amounts to about three lines of quotes. I was unaware of this until she directed me here. How did she know about it? Splash contacted her. She has the email. They asked her for a high-res photo of herself. She told them she doesn't have any media shots but they could take a look at her website. I asked her to send me the emails and she did. They were from a guy named Gavin at Splash. I think he was very misleading and setting the whole thing up to be malicious. She also gave me the name of the couple you question and although I think it's irrelevant, they are straight. She was willing to give me as much information I wanted once I established who I was. She does support gay rights but this case did not involve a gay couple or anything to do with gay and lesbian couples adopting in Vietnam.

You people will die for Angelina Jolie and trust me she and Brad Pitt are frightened by your devotion not impressed by it. 15 minutes? How do you know who does or doesn't know Tatiana Beams? Why and how would she be contacted? Do you think it was random or is it possible that there are people already familiar with her and her work? Did it ever occur to you that there are people out there who have the ear of people in the media who then turned them to Tatiana. Her work is not public. People working for free and on policy are usually not looking for publicity. Allot of people say that Angelina Jolie is obsessed with publicity. There are many people questioning Angelina's never-ending need for attention. You have no idea just what she, Tatiana Beams, is working on. You have no idea and neither did I. She doesn't flaunt her work. She doesn't say much about it. Tatiana's work would be considered by most of you to be boring. The spotlight Angelina Jolie gave adoption was an opportunity to discuss policies of International Adoption not an opportunistic person looking to discuss Angelina Jolie. Only people obsessed with Angelina Jolie would read into this way. Did you ever consider that Angelina was not even aware of the problems existing in International Adoption until now?

The angle I can't figure out is how you think she is backstabbing Angelina Jolie? She spoke about adoption procedures and laws. I read the quotes over and over and other than saying something about Angelina shouldn't speak about Madonna's adoption because of own agency's issues, I haven't found any negativity toward Angelina as a person. I'm still not sure if the first article about Madonna was spun by Tatiana or the Post. Most of it was written by the Post who recently deemed Angelina as a possible heroin addict again. I talked to adoption agencies and the ones I talked to said that if a client admitted to using heroin, being suicidal and cutting themselves in the past would probably not be approved in a home study. Either way it is all fact based. If you search the subject as I did, Angelina Jolie's agency was in the press at the time she adopted Maddox. More people have questioned Angelina Jolie's stability as a person than her adoptions. Tatiana Beams said nothing about Angelina Jolie as a person and even when I pushed her she never said anything negative. Her facts were relevant and stayed on topic. How do you know that no one from the Jolie- Pitt team has not contacted Ms. Beams to apologize for treatment from the fans? You don't. You are the ones that drive the press and paparazzi to hunt Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt. Your obsession is frightening and what was a story about adoption is turning out to be a better story about fanatics and their obsession with Angelina Jolie. CNN recently did a story on it. Watch it. It's called 'Chasing Angelina' and the bottom line is that if you weren't supplying the need, they would not be chasing her.

You opinions are yours and everyone has this right but they are hateful and not well thought out. Your behavior reminds me of piranhas attacking in a frenzied school of hysteria. Your hatred seems unreasonable. Your chances of speaking to Tatiana Beams are much greater than your chances of ever speaking with Angelina Jolie. Your attacks on Tatiana Beams for attempting to write something kind to you are blind with hate and it speaks volumes about the direction our society is going. It gives me something great to work with. I searched a bunch of blogs and it appears to be the same people saying the same thing over and over. I'm pretty sure I saw some of you on another blog. It's all very bizarre to me.

The IRS thing above. The USCIS does not use the IRS definition. It 's an 171-H thing that adoption agencies use. I didn't know what that was but I do now and I doubt you know anything about it either.

(Above) I know Corynne Steindler from NYU but not personally. I can tell you that at 23, she is much more ahead of the game career wise than most of us could ever hope to be. You hatred toward her is unfounded and it's common for people in the press to hang up on "crazies.'"

If you are true fans then consider your position and just how you wish to represent your star. You've made it very clear to me and it's not stable


Trevor...Tatiana is that you? She can backpeddle all she wants and pretend to be hurt, but she has caused this herself. She pretended to be an expert and attacked Angelina while she absolutely knew nothing about the adoption laws in Vietnam. She has been hinting and stating ever since Angelina adopted Maddox that Angelina has been doing something shady. This is the background. However, she's been proven wrong each time. Maybe next time she learns to educate herself before shooting her mouth off. Or maybe as a non-expert, she should just shut up and let someone like David Ptasnik, who actually knows what he's talking about do the talking.


Your hatred seems unreasonable. Your chances of speaking to Tatiana Beams are much greater than your chances of ever speaking with Angelina Jolie.
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Are you that completely delusional or that stupid? You think people say kind things about Angelina on a blog in hopes of meeting Angelina? Yup, you must be Tatiana. Face it, you print and say garbage in the media, people will expose you.


Trevor says:

It gives me something great to work with. I searched a bunch of blogs and it appears to be the same people saying the same thing over and over. I’m pretty sure I saw some of you on another blog. It’s all very bizarre to me.

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OMG hahahaha. cuz there can only be 10 Angelina fans or 10 people in the world who can smell bullshit and call the bullshitter our for it. You don't have to be an Angelina fan to know that Tatiana is spouting off rubbish and is actually hurting adoption.


The Vietnamese law says that homosexual people or homosexual couples cannot adopt. This woman is and advocate for many gay people who want to adopt including two of her best freinds (male couple). Vietnam law does not permit both hettrosexuals in a live in relationship to adopt - only one is permitted to adopt as a single even though they are living together. Once again note the distinction - homosexual - no ---- hetrosexual yes. Google state country country vietnam it will give you the website - then scroll down to read the Vietnamese rules.


Tatiana - you did it again defending yourself. You really should post the original email or posting which all these people were referring to. That way it will be harder for you to change what you supposedly "said". Below is a quote from your post on this website - you are implying that Angelina picked this child rather than having a child chosen for her and that is contrary to Vietnamese policy. Correct on the policy but if you read any of the official statements from the orphanage you would have read that she was given one file regarding one child and she accepted that child. You are blinded by your own issues. Here is your quote and implication: " There are many issues being discussed right now by other groups and press about procedures surrounding this adoption. One is the referral of child versus picking of the child and so forth. Currently, Vietnam does not allow one to ‘choose’ a child. It is based on referral only. There are parents out there wanting to know what is going on. I honestly do not know anything about this particular subject.


Response to Trevor 3/17 1:02 pm

Please read the following :--

Your logic of referencing Angies thoughts/actions and growing pains 10 years ago holds no water .

You were once a teenager .. are you going to be known as one forever ? you were once wearing diapers .. are you going to be known as a diaper wearing woman forever ? you were once a smoker but quit years ago … are you going to be known as a smoker today ?

Everyone has a past and everyone learn, grown and mature from the life lessons.

Unless, she is currently smoking, doing coke, tanning, talking without action, lying, obsessively harming herself through botox and plastic surgery then you can call her out on it .

……..But instead Angelina has taken on greater roles since 2001, she’s avail herself to UNCHR, supporting numerous causes helping the world in her own little ways, took up responsibility to be a mother and now a proud mom to 3 beautiful children. These actions can only be associated with one who is compassionate, responsible , nuturing and loving .

But You continue to TWIST every action of Angelina…

.. the reality is that you all have it mixed up with someone else who we all know is Jennifer Aniston, one who is still living her life like she has been 10 years ago - not taking responsibility, not maturing , nothing changed .. not her looks, not her hair, not her brain and whatever actions that are associated with her …she continue to live in the dellusional past . Tha is what I call scary and mentally unstable.

In conclusion, you cant lie you are on a campaign to smear Angie's reputation.

Remember, you will reap what you sow.


Oh Tatiana using the name "Trevor" I guess she figured out that Trevor Neilson is Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie's advisor who gave official statements to the Western press about the adoption.

Tatiana = stalker. Tatiana = Trevor. Why the sensitivity about the photo's on your web site and the one posted here?

Honey, people can see through you like a clear pane of glass.


Press Release from Adoptions from the Heart:

In applying to adopt 3-yr-old Pax Thien, Ms. Jolie followed the same course as all prospective adoptive parents who apply to our Vietnam program. Throughout her adoption process, which began in the summer of 2006, she has received no preferential treatment from the Vietnamese government or Adoptions From The Heart, and contrary to earlier reports, her application was not fast tracked.

Despite rumors that she chose her child, Ms. Jolie received a referral, just like any other parent adopting from Vietnam. In late 2006, she was referred a child who had been legally determined to be available for adoption and who fit within the parameters for which she had been approved to adopt. She accepted the first and only referral given to her.

In addition, we can confirm the statement given by Nguyen Van Trung, Director of Tam Binh Orphanage, that Ms. Jolie has neither made, nor promised to make, any financial contributions to his orphanage. Adoptions From The Heart celebrates the miracle of adoption with the Jolie-Pitt family, as we do with all of our clients, and wish them much joy.

http://www.adoptionsfromtheheart.org/pdfs/news/jolie_press_release3_07.pdf


[How do you know that no one from the Jolie- Pitt team has not contacted Ms. Beams to apologize for treatment from the fans? ]

You DID NOT just write that? You owe me a keyboard because I just spit out my water. Good gracious, the delusion of grandeur, the hopes of contact to the celebrity world.

Tatiana, step away from the computer, stop trolling celebrity blogs and photo site with posting of Angelina and Brad Pitt. Go read your kids a story.


Trevor-

You said you went from blog to blog. Why in the world can a person having time and energy to go from blog to blog unless he/she is hired by a person.

Could it be you are paid by Huvanne (Jen's publicist)? It has been proven that Huvanne or his staff read blogs. It was proved at the perez site which Huvanne sent a email to perez asking him to lighten on Aniston.

People dont hate T Beams. These people are trying to expose who T Beams is.


Does anyone seriously think Tatiana's husband actually has sex with her?


"...people with power, money, and yes even celebrities receive special treatment." Well that is certainly true but your article is basically stating that Ms. Beams is wrong for advocating social justice. Completely ridiculous!

PS - I highly doubt her picture was "sold" to splash as it is on Ms. Beam's public website.


Oh people stop it with Aniston/Huvane thing. This woman is delusional all on her own.

Think about it, She created her own website after she read (because she trolls the internet about Angelina) postings on Just Jared and celebritybabies.com from people who were ripping her inaccurate statements left and right.

She didn't even know that adoptions were closed in Vietnam until 2005.


Another thing... Tatiana, you can't hide your writing style. It's the same as Trevor's. No one believes it isn't you because it is YOU. The paragraph spacing, the phrasing and wording are too obvious.

You're just making a fool out of yourself


I went to Ms. Beams web site.

So far nothing coming out of Ms. Beams’ side is credible; many people posted doubting the legitimacy of her web site contents and her credentials. If I were a parent in search of an adoption agency, after reading the posts in various blogs , I would not touch her agency with a stick - consider the picture on the web site, who would want to adopt from an agent whose face is half-covered for a first impression?


"Did you ever consider that Angelina was not even aware of the problems existing in International Adoption until now?"

Oh brother! A woman who is a Goodwill Ambassador the United Nations High Commision on Refugees, who's traveled to over 20 countries, 30 refugee camps, who's adopted three children from three different countries, who meets with presidents of other countries, attends meetings on Capitol Hill, who got a bill passed in Congress, who attends meetings and sits on panels with the likes of Condi Rice, Colin Powell, Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, Hillary Clinton, and so on and so on...

No she would never know anything about problems with international adoption.

Tatiana aka Trevor you really are foolish


Trevor, if you have a job why are you trolling blogs looking for post about Tatianna and what adoption advocate cares so much about what's said on blogs. I wish Perez will take you up, you will probably have a nervous breakdown by the time he is done with you. You all forget that celebrities are human too and when you as an adoptive parents decide to slander another parents just to get publicity, it will surely come back to bite you. Angie never said she was a hero for adoption, you sauid that and you continue your malicious attack on her so people who admire her her are now defending her and giving you a taste of your own medicine and you can't stand. Little girl you should know better than to play with the big dogs. You continue to seek attention by linking this site on your blog. Where's NYPOST to defend you now? That's what i thought.


Well, out of curiosity, I went to her site. I'm not impressed !!!

I’m skeptical about this Tatiana Beams.

Why didnt she mention any real credentials? Or how about being a member or any recognized adoption organization. There are plenty of them. Is she saying that she is just an “informed” person who offers advice?

Why did she ( a couple months ago) go to NY post Page 6 and strout negativity on Angelina's adoption?

If one of her main concerns is to get more couples, unmarried and gay, to adopt, why didnt Beams do SUFFICIENT research before attacking Jolie?

Ms. Beams actions seemed to show that she did not wish for this adoption to take place. It makes no sense to me.

I really question if Ms. Beams is knowledgeable in international adoption particularly on the country Vietnam.


"I would not touch her agency with a stick - consider the picture on the web site, who would want to adopt from an agent whose face is half-covered for a first impression?"

She doesn't have an agency. She's some obsessed Angelina stalker who claims she's an "advocate" and "expert" on international adoption. Her problem is that there are plenty of people who really are and they're calling her on her BS


What is this site and who are you people? Question. When Splash going to post your photos? Oh yeah! The won't. You're most likely fat hags. Puhleeease people. Your jealousy of this woman because of her ability to get more attention than you is hilarious. I was turned on to this bizarro world site by a friend. Your crazy rants just confirm you instability as Trevor errr Huvane stated. Oh yeah and that agency press release didn't mention ANYTHING about what Tatiana was talking about. They're talking about that whole fast track crap. Go harass all those parents on other sites bitching and moaning about how the she-witch voodoo wench jumped to the head of the line. Transsssferrrr your hatred freaks!


to the poster who said Angie criticized Madonna, please read the following article from the people's web site. Also read the last paragraph which Madonna said the press always twist things.

from people magazine web site.

Angelina Jolie: We Should Support Madonna

MONDAY JANUARY 08, 2007 05:15 PM EST UPDATED

By Stephen M. Silverman

Despite her comments in a French magazine, Angelina Jolie WASN'T trying to criticize Madonna for adopting a child from Malawi, she says.

"The article included many falsehoods," Jolie said in a statement on Monday. "I said many positive things that were omitted. I feel we must focus on the present and I encourage everyone to be supportive so that every child can adjust nicely to their new home."

But Jolie, whose son Maddox, 5, and Zahara, who turned 2 on Monday, are from Cambodia and Ethiopia, respectively, has sympathy for the singer. "I have been horrified by the attacks she’s been subjected to," she says. "All that should count is the happiness of her little David."

Daily 10 (TV)showed an interview of Madonna. She was asked about what Angelina said. Madonna said "I don’t know what Angelina said or if Angelina said anything at all. You know how the media likes to twist things. So since I don’t know, I not going to speak on the subject. "


Um dummy 4:41 the adoption process started in June of 2006


The adoption agency that Angelina used issued the following response to clear up rumors regarding Pax’s adoption.

“In applying to adopt 3-yr-old Pax Thien, Ms. Jolie followed the same course as all prospective adoptive parents who apply to our Vietnam program. Throughout her adoption process, which began in the summer of 2006, she has received no preferential treatment from the Vietnamese government or Adoptions From The Heart, and contrary to earlier reports, her application was not fast tracked.

Despite rumors that she chose her child, Ms. Jolie received a referral, just like any other parent adopting from Vietnam. In late 2006, she was referred a child who had been legally determined to be available for adoption and who fit within the parameters for which she had been approved to adopt. She accepted the first and only referral given to her.

In addition, we can confirm the statement given by Nguyen Van Trung, Director of Tam Binh Orphanage, that Ms. Jolie has neither made, nor promised to make, any financial contributions to his orphanage. Adoptions From The Heart celebrates the miracle of adoption with the Jolie-Pitt family, as we do with all of our clients, and wish them much joy.”

– Heidi Gonzalez, Vietnam Adoption Coordinator for Adoptions From The Heart


sigh...freaks. all of you freaks. go get your slimfast shakes and try to get a life. I have one so I'm moving on. Oh! Tatiana Beams has gay friends! Wow. I like her even more now! Thanks Splash!


"Oh! Tatiana Beams has gay friends! Wow. I like her even more now! "

Oh, I'm SURE you do.


ummmm Betty. Are you mad at Angelina's gay brother? Because you sound a little homophobic. I bet Jenny Shimuzu really gets in your ugly craw!


Ohhh you caught me. Yer wicked smaat


Is this person for real? She claims to be a professional and she's posting on photo agency sites and celebrity blogs? Why would anyone take anything serious she says specifically when it's in accurate and full of half truths?


then rudy why are you here? she didn't post anything. they posted it. and no one would even know what it is unless they searched for tatiana. it must be why you are here are rudy. is that it? they posted her not you. are you real?


in fact i wish one of you would try to sell your photo to splash. do u think they would post it? do you think you are that interesting? isn't that what you want. u want so much to be heard. what about being seen? i think very scary for most of us. to see u that is.


Because Tatiana isn't an advocate or anything, she's just an adoptee mum who wants to get ahead and it backfire. Who gives a shit what is said about them on blogs except you are Aniston or dunst. We are people you will never meet and won't even have giving you the time of the day if you didn't try to slander another adopting mum just because she is a celebrity and she can't fight back. All the news jumped on her comment in January about Angie not being a hero in the adoption community but yet she had only praise for Madonna's adoption of a baby with a living parent and in a country where adopting is supposed to take 2 years and there are people still waiting. Then she did it again in Febuary with her comment that Angie is getting special treatment because she really isn't single, only an illiterate wouldn't know the difference between legally married and co habitting couple legally single and married couple. Now after feel the brunt of teh fire, she is backtracking. You are a disgrace to adopting community and advocates for adoption.


I think Tatiana realized she has to change the way she writes because it was too obvious she posted as "Trevor" Now, it's too obvious that she's trying to disguise it. u r funny T


I think I've finally figured it out. Tatiana thinks she and her husband are the Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie of Seattle.

Oh.My.God! You have a very long way to go Tatiana


lol


aren't you slandering an adoptive MUM right now? ummm she never said Angie baby was getting special treatment. and hopie gal i don't she ever praised madonna. nothing direct on eith of those people. Harpie, she certainly has your painties in a wad. I think you care Hope. I think you really care. your little angry Harpie rant oh I mean Hopie rant proves how kind and caring to the world you are. Hope it's time to sell your photo to splash. New MUM of the year!oh hopie i think i love you. can you pls forward you organizaation info? cheerio Hope!


What time is it in the U.K. ummmmmm?


wait 61, 62, 63, but what about those photos of you on splash and your website? pls send the link. okay. u win. i think everyone with a life is outta here. u r free to spew your self loathing hate among yourselves.


It gives me something great to work with. I searched a bunch of blogs and it appears to be the same people saying the same thing over and over. I’m pretty sure I saw some of you on another blog.
Comment by Trevor — March 17, 2007 @ 1:02 pm

My theory: Trevor is patrolling blogs because he is a friend of Tatiana Beams and is doing research. Notice how he writes "It gives me something great to work with."

Then if you go to Tatiana's website she writes "Harsh words, my response (Post# 21). Go Here. Update: We no longer need the link. We got what we needed. Thanks for the response and the great material."

So Trevor if my theory is correct please make sure to do some research over at Female First. Please linger on the posts which threaten death to the Jolie-Pitt family or one of my personal favorites such as the racist tirades. We wouldn't want your "research" to be one sided, now would we? One last thing, for someone who criticizes others for their "hateful" words about Tatiana, your hateful words about Angelina Jolie makes you a hypocrite. I'll just save this entire webpage for my own personal research. I'm not much of a writer but lucky me I know someone who is with an incredible readership.


Check this out peeps... one of your own on this site. a Jolie hater has come running to the femalefirst forum looking for help to insult and attack you :> for supporting Jolie... here is her cry for attention and link :>

"All I can say is thank god I found you! I would have never even known about this site had some crazy piranha fan of Jolie's pointed me on to you. 'It' accused me of being 'in' with you. I won't tell you who I am but let's just say 'I spoke out about the adoption. NOT Jolie. The adoption' and ever since I have been harassed by crazy demented frightening obsessed fans. I had no idea. I really had no idea. But at least this site brings humor to the whole thing. Again- Thank you. Thank you all. I especially love the quote about the mass suicide pact by the loons should Brad and Angelina break-up. I am laughing my butt off because it's funny but sadly it's so true. I had nooooo idea. None. If you're interested in stirring their little hornet nest, go here: http://splashnewsonline.celebuzz.com/2007/03/05/illegal-adoption-for-angelina-jolie/"

http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=127736&start=15


I'm going to post Heidei Gonzales released in behalf of AFTH again in its entirety [credit to a poster at JJ]- Ms. Beams, I suggest you do extensive research first before you make another statement. I have one word for you - INCOMPETENCE.

Angelina Jolie’s Adoption Agency Issues Statement

WYNNEWOOD, Pa. – March 15, 2007 - Heidi Gonzalez, Vietnam Adoption
Coordinator for Adoptions From The Heart, has issued the following response to
inquiries regarding Angelina Jolie’s adoption from Vietnam.

“In applying to adopt 3-yr-old Pax Thien, Ms. Jolie followed the same course as all
prospective adoptive parents who apply to our Vietnam program. Throughout her
adoption process, which began in the summer of 2006, she has received no preferential treatment from the Vietnamese government or Adoptions From The Heart, and, contrary to earlier reports, her application was not fast-tracked.

Despite rumors that she chose her child, Ms. Jolie received a referral, just like any other parent adopting from Vietnam. In late 2006, she was referred a child who had been legally determined to be available for adoption and who fit within the parameters for which she had been approved to adopt. She accepted the first and only referral given to her.

In addition, we can confirm the statement given by Nguyen Van Trung, Director of Tam Binh Orphanage, that Ms. Jolie has neither made, nor promised to make, any financial contributions to his orphanage.

Adoptions From The Heart celebrates the miracle of adoption with the Jolie-Pitt family, as we do with all of our clients, and wishes them much joy.”

Background:

• Adoptions From The Heart (AFTH) is a licensed, non-profit agency offering domestic and international adoption. Based in Wynnewood, Pa., a Philadelphia suburb, the agency has 12 offices, and is licensed in PA, NJ, DE, VA, WV and NY, and approved to place children with
families in CT.

• Founded in 1985, by Maxine Chalker, an adoptee herself and former adoption social worker, who serves as executive director. AFTH has earned a reputation for pioneering innovative services to improve the overall adoption process, including being one of the first agencies on the East Coast more than a decade ago to begin offering the option of international adoption - well ahead of the rapidly growing trend. Today, AFTH works with orphanages throughout Asia, Europe and South America.

• AFTH had placed 250 Vietnamese children from 1995 to 2003, when the Vietnamese government closed the program. In April 2006, when Vietnam reopened adoption to the U.S., AFTH received became licensed in Ho Chi Minh City to place children. Since then, 30 families have completed adoptions through AFTH; 22 others are in various stages of the process currently with referrals, and still more are on a waiting list.

• AFTH currently works with four orphanages in Vietnam, including Tam Binh, from which Angelina Jolie adopted.

• AFTH facilitators work directly with the Department of International Adoption (DIA) in Hanoi, the Ministry of Justice and the orphanages to process the required paperwork and help facilitate adoptions through the Vietnamese government. In Vietnam, facilitators escort families to appointments with USCIS (U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services), the U.S. Embassy and required doctor visits. They arrange tours and generally accommodate families’ needs while they are in Vietnam.

• AFTH has provided ongoing humanitarian aid to the orphanages with which it works, including such current projects as helping to offset daily expenses at Tam Binh orphanage, and funding construction of a new emergency room at Go Vap orphanage, creation of a “milk room” that connects to the infant room at Thi Nghe orphanage, and the purchase of new furniture for the Picasso orphanage.

• Jolie was referred to AFTH by Jane Aronson, MD, a New York-based pediatrician who specializes in adoption medicine and treated Jolie’s Ethiopian adopted daughter Zahara.


ummmmm malaya. this doesn't have anything to do with what Tatiana was talking about in either article. Did you do your research? how is singapore these days? i hear angelina might be looking to adopt you.


snorrrre...oh i was supposed to go but i couldn't keep from sticking around for more freak, homophobic hate rants. it's just so damn amusing. dear little ones, i pose this question again, what does tatiana beams helping of gay couples have to do with anything? we need to stay focussed and on topic. it will help you in your debate class. you're never going to get good marks if you keep arguing without making a relevent point. snorrrre. Remember Brad and Angelina like the gay people. they don't like you. heh:)


so if trevor=tatiana then that means that teehee = hag + Faye + Hope+ Maylaysia + she-Witch + Hold-Up Ima nut = MC I'm scared. trevor obviously has tatiana's back but who's shaved yours recently. Did u know that Jolie is shagging her married Trev in SA. HA! yes indeed the veiled reference to the man Jolie has possessed is very interesting. Brad today = trevor tomorrow. will there be a trevolina loonfest soon?


Hey Truth Shall Set You Free person. I'm looking looking looking. Where are Trevor's devastating hate comments about Angelina. Please paste and comment. That's awesome when you do that. I'm sloooowww. I need the help.


69, Tatiana Reams made a lot of inferences in her PAGE SIX slams, the singles adopting in 'Nam issue was but just one. ALL of her PAGE SIX negative inferences against the Jolie adoption have been discounted, and exposed as untrue.

I am amazed at how many people have put the smackdown on PAGE SIX and their 'hitwoman' TATIANA REAMS - congratlations...I didn't even know all that had transpired since I did my little bit of research and shared it on another board. Great going! It just goes to show some of these outfits that they can't pull the wool over people's eyes anymore, not when in most instances we can do research better than they ever thought about doing. These slandering gossip pages, and media whores need to recognize that they don't know who they're dealing with on the open web. Hell, we could all be journalists, reporters, law enforcement people - and we might just have a stake in how adoption is maligned and endangered ourselves.

Not to smart PAGE SIX, and TATIANA.

Look, there's only 3 things people need to know about TATIANA BEAMS.

1)She was contacted & contracted by PAGE SIX to do a HIT on Angelina Jolie, to DELIBERATELY stir up FALSE CONTROVERSY (ala Madonna & Malawi) re Angelina Jolie, in the hopes that the same kind of rabid nasty reaction to a little child's adoption would occur, and so Ms. Beams could get her name in the kleig lights. Instead she's only become known as a (now) NOTORIOUS pawn for PAGE SIX. PAGE SIX claims BEAMS sent THEM an 'open letter.' Now, IF she's an actual person, and not the creation of PAGE SIX's byline HACKS (Waves to Corrine Steindler, Richard Johnson, and Froedlich and the rest), she should KNOW, there's not a family alive interested in adoption that would touch her with a 197 foot pole considering her only notoriety is in slamming Jolie, considering her spectacular LACK of credentials, and ESPECIALLY when she goes around slurring other prospective adoptive parents IN GOSSIP PAGES.

2)Let's be REAL clear on who and what, we're talking about: Beams did NOT give an interview to a New York Post 'journalist' ( I use the term loosely, as we ARE talking about the NYP). BEAMS gave her slandering 'soundbites' to PAGE SIX. PAGE SIX is a CELEBRITY GOSSIP COLUMN *within* the tabloidesque New York Post. PAGE SIX is even LESS reliable than TED CASABLANCAS at E! Or Mike Walker at the NATIONAL ENQUIRER. Why PEREZ HILTON has more BANKABLE ITEMS! Ask yourselves WHY a woman purporting to be a LEGIT so-called 'ADOPTION ADVOCATE' concerned for the children, supposedly working with families, agencies, consulates, and governments (so she CLAIMS, there is NO evidence supporting it), would ONLY speak to the HACKS who write for PAGE SIX (a RIDICULOUS gossip column)?!

Yeah...exactly. It's like if Woodward & Bernstein had taken Watergate to the National Enquirer. Or if the Valerie Plame story broke in LIFE & STYLE.

3)Let's be even MORE CLEAR. The evidence SHOWS that TATIANA BEAMS has GIVEN NO OTHER interviews, made NO OTHER statements, contributed NO OTHER stories, reports, or information about ADOPTION or ANYTHING ELSE, on the OPEN WEB *EXCEPT* for her PAGE SIX NEGATIVE comments slamming Angelina. That's RIGHT. Oh, there's about 800-1200 hits/results for this lady, but they ALL have to do with ANGELINA! You know how it works - basically other websites LINK to the online PAGE SIX articule, and they MASS reproduce and multiply. HOWEVER, when you do a search on TATIANA BEAMS *WITHOUT* the word(s) Angelina Jolie - GUESS what comes up?!

NOTHING.

The woman did not even EXIST *ANYWHERE* prior to her Angelina BASHING! I couldn't find one paper, one interview on adoption, one essay, one blog, one newsgroup, one second, third or fourth-hand mention of her name by a family or an agency. ZIP! NADA! She was born onto the net, when she started slandered Angelina the FIRST time back in Dec/Jan.

4)As LATE, as 2 weeks ago, She HAD *ONLY* a ONE PAGE non active website, created in late FALL of 2006 (perhaps to coincide with the *FIRST* PAGE SIX HIT she, and THEY, knew would be running in the next couple weeks). It was laughable. It was amateurish. My 7 year old son could have posted it up. THERE were NO listings of AGENCIES, no additional info on adoption, no links on adoption, no credentials, no additional interviews. NOTHING. It was ONE *INACTIVE* PAGE. On it, there was a pic of her looking like a damned Russian spy, complete with fur muff on her head and scarf wrapped around the lower part of her face, only her eyes were visible (VERY SPOOKY & BIZARRE - who in the hell would put that kind of pic on a website?? Not exactly professional and/or warm & fuzzy either...just mysterious as all hell), There were pics of her and a kid, and
4 bullet points - a 'mission statement.' That was IT, a one page non active, NON-INFORMATIVE site.

5)HOWEVER, *after* people everywhere had CLOCKED her and PAGE SIX for the Angelina 'HIT' and were calling her 10 kinds of FAKE. She SUDDENLY CHANGES her website!! It goes from 1 PAGE to 4, in a nanosecond when she's EXPOSED!! They very obviously started feeling the heat and were being ridiculed - and they TRIED to 'professionlize' it and make it look more legit. I say 'tried.' To NO AVAIL. It was still a horribly bad site, but nonetheless - the fact that she and whoever, were OBVIOUSLY trying to make her look more legit, I found hilarious. They added a 'TEAM page' (which was just a page with the first names of 'friends' - it LITERALLY read, Lisa, Sue, blah, and blah). She added a 'BLOG' page (but oh yeah, it wasn't a message board you could post messages to, it was just a page she wrote things on. HAHA.) - she soon turned THAT into a 'News/Info' page. If enough people ask, I'll happily post her old ORIGINAL 1-page crap website that was recently ditched when she was exposed AS THE FRAUD she is.

6)What was MOST telling, one of her bullet points on her one page website, was immediately changed to reflect what she had commented on in slandering Angelina. She REMOVED a bullet point that voiced 'concerns about removing children from war torn areas and giving them stability' and REPLACED IT WITH a bullet point that discussed what she TRIED to slur Angelina with, i.e., 'singles living with partners and NOT OBEYING the adoption laws.' That's right, AFTER SHE & PAGE SIX were BUSTED all OVER THE WEB, OVERNIGHT her 'mission' changed - ahahahaha....

....yeah Tatiana, just FORGET about the orphans in war-torned unstable areas, the orphans in danger of being adopted by beautiful movie stars MUST be protected!

Anyway, kudos to all. It's poetic justice that the TRUTH and FACTS won out, and these slanderers are now being exposed and getting raked over the coals.


And why should a celeb just walk in, grab a kid, take off with it in minutes, change it's name(cruelest of all) and no one bats an eye? Especially someone who would never be allowed to adopt in America with her past.


Some of you people are just plain idiots. The name Pax was given at that orphanage is the equivalant of John Doe Smith.


Awww....poor Tatiana Beams, hurtful things were said about her on blogs...
It is amazing that those that can dish out the dirt cannot take it. You made yourself a spokesperson for adoptive parents, slamming Angelina not once but twice on the tabloidish page six who actually called the orphans you supposedly care about urchins, and you were not perturbed by that, you care more about what is going on with Angelina's adoption.

It went so well for you the first time that you could not have forseen the firestorm that will engulf you the second time around. Did your media laision person, Lisa write the above response to you since she was the one that responded to the email I sent to you.
Itt does not feel good to have your motives questioned and negative things written about you, does it? You probably bought into the media and tabloid lies that women cannot relate to Ms Jolie, I guess you are finding out what a big lie that is. Angelina has the most diverse, savvy, educated, intelligent fan base around the world, their research capabilities is better than what the is capable of but unwilling to do. So they did their research on you and called you out for the FRAUD that you are. A lot of her fans are sick and tired of the lies, the villification and the misinformation.
As you said that you and your circle of inept friends are waiting for the outcome of this adoption, we are also waiting for your next attack or raather your next attempt at slandering.
Like Ms Gonzalez of AFTH heart said, this adoption process started last summer, and Ms Jolie accepted her first and only referral- meaning she crossed her t's and dotted her i's because she is probably away that there are vultures like you waiting to get your 15minutes of fame by pouncing on her.

You are a fake Ms Beam and you have been exposed for the fraud that you are. You are no expert and frankly your 15 minutes of notoriety acquired on the back of Ms Jolie is over.
Next time do a little bit of research, it will help you not to look so stupid and then have to go from blog to blog trying to defend the indefensible.

One more thing, on several occassions, I have heard Ms Jolie say that her children have given her more than she could ever give them, that does not sound like a woman who thinks she is a HERO. Channel your obssession with Ms Jolie into something positive that way you are not eaten up by jealousy.


http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/about128003.html

I'm singing as I write this.
Ange's adoptions are shady. Others have been sayn' it not just this lady.
Go get a life you little minded girls of fat.
Brad will leave her, you take that.

AND P.S. Brad HAS not adopted the other two! HAHAHA! Guardian does not=adoptive father. So let's move on the topic you are all avoiding. This woman is you trying destract your warped little minds from reality! HA


Oh Dear. The theloonsrFATnstupid. Heh


Oh I mean I love the smack according to Jolie. That meand Heroin. Addicts past and present cannot adopt. Fantasy folks harassing people that are not saying much that's not true and a bit boring. Heroin is the name of the game.

http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/about127954.html


scoobie doobie doo and da da da

JJ fesses up da da da da da

http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/about127252.html


craaaazzzzy borderline jolie. oh yes what will you do when your med run out.

here's a bit on her fast track adoption. You know, they love the poppie in Nam.

http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/about127175.html


For those of you here to read about the woman above. Forget about it. This is all you need. It always includes many links of proof about the Jolie=media Ho.

http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/forum-40.html


Linking to FF doesn't do your fat heffers any good. As that site is full of hysterical people that can't get over the fact that Brad left Jennifer Aniston for a life.

And Brad has adopted the kids. What part of all adoptions are private don't you understand? You will never see any papers regarding any adoption because they're all private.

Don't let facts get in your way. You never do.

Go live in your fantasy land where Jennifer Aniston is the most popular actress in the whole world.

We'll live in the world where people go, Jennifer Aniston, who?


oooohhh got in yer craw. But JJ admitted that the kiddies have not been adopted only guardianship granted. there is a difference my angry little luv.


WTF is JJ?

Bonehead.

That's a straw that you keep grasping onto.

Guess, what? He's never going back to Jennifer Aniston, even though the egg has hatched and you've told him, it's time to come home.

He wouldn't recongnize Jennifer Aniston if he passed her on the street. And it's not because of all the work she's had done to her Mr. Ed face.

It's because he's forgotten that she even exists.


Oh are you JJ? Well isnt' he your Jesus? Here you go.
http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/about127252.html


Just Jared? A blogger? ROTFLMAO!

You're straws are getting rather spindly aren't they?

Oh, crap. That was funny.


Oh your just mad becuz FF has exposed your crazy little hate rants. bawahahahaha

BPD, Heroin, Cutting, it's all there. The facts are there. The links provided. Go for it.

This just in:

http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/about127988.html


http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/about127843.html

Brad had time to bike but not to adopt. hmm?


You guys think you have the facts. You are freaks. Brad has not adopted these kids. FACT

Adoption is the permanent legal assumption of all parental rights and responsibilities for a child. Adoptive parents have the same legal rights and responsibilities as parents whose children are born to them.

A guardian is someone appointed by the court to care for a child until he or she is 18. If you become a guardian, the court grants you the right to make most decisions regarding the child.

A guardian is not a child's legal parent and may be subject to ongoing supervision of the court. Guardianship does not give all the legal rights and responsibilities of a parent to the guardian the way adoption does to an adoptive parent. The court can make a decision about guardianship whether or not the parent agrees.


Ooh, FF is so good on their investigative work.

It's not like Angelina is the one that spoke OPENLY about all of that.

ROTFLMAO! I'm not mad. I'm tickled to death that Angelina is open and honest.

Unlike, Jennifer Aniston. Who has to manufacture a relationship with someone and even Vaughn found a faux relationship with her too hard.

Yep, he was riding his bike around L.A. And guess what, he'll do it again.


Right ON! Here's the link on that one.

http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/about127923.html