I completely agree with you. This woman should be praising Jolie for bringing such positive attention to adopting children instead of just bashing her without knowing the full story.

let's hear what Jolie has to say about it.
But Angelina can rest knowing that no matter what she'll never receive the hate and criticism madonna did.

The woman is probably just giving Angelina a taste of her own medicine, since Angie was the one recently dissing Madonna for using illegal channels to adopt.

Angelina said that Madonna was probably doing an illegal adoption, and how she wouldn't do that, yet now she is! pot.kettle.black.

why don't they adopt an american child? there are plenty available!

Indeed... She is just doing this for publicity, and apparently she's getting it.

And about famous pelople getting special treatment, well, let's stop right there. It's not like Jolie will be showing her medals to get it, so let's not use that to fuel this woman's arguments.

FGS leave Jolie alone. The problem is not favors etc etc.. if damn adoption was made easier there would not be these loopholes/favours etc.Jolie is a great role model being with her kids most of her time.And she hardly parades herself as some kind of "heroine" of parentless children of the world .Adopting is far better option than the costly insanity of barren people wasting tons of money of IVF in a stance that they are"entitled " to have their own even when biology has said they cannot
This females anti Jolie rant sounds bitter jealous and twisted and seeking media spotlight.

ATTENTION! This woman is FRAUD, a hit job perpetrated on Angelina by PAGE SIX. It's all coming out too. 'PAGE SICK,' for their own wack reasons, have commissioned this character to malign Angelina and Brad and even interfere in an adoption process that is not even CLOSE to taking place yet! It's totally abhorrent what PAGE SIX is doing! CHECK IT OUT: Neither this woman's SO-CALLED "advocacy" for adoption, or even her name appear ANYWHERE on the web, in ANY capacity regarding adoption, EXCEPT in the TWO instances she's slammed Angelina on Page Six, bizarrely enough. She has never commented on anyone or anything other than the Angelina soundbites that for some reason, she's happily given to PAGE SIX. PAGE SIX has it out for Angelina, that's where the buck stops. I don't know if it's personal, OR if having seen the huge Madonna & 'Baby David' travesty and the publicity IT generated, they're just creaming to try and land Angelina in the middle of come adoption controversy of her own. It's one thing to COVER a story that's a debacle on it's own like the Malawi adoption, it's another to ACTIVELY seek out nefarious characters like this Beams person, and try to DISRUPT adoptions of impoverished orphans that haven't even happened yet! I hope PAGE SIX is washing their hands of this creep and their dirty tricks, real FAST like, as it's about to blow wide open. The ONLY thing that shows up for this Beams person, are about almost a thousand results/hits of her 2 nasty comments to Page Six regarding Angie's adoptions. THAT, is the extent of 'Tatiana Beams' so-called "Adoption Advocacy." When the b**tch gets investigated and scrutinized her damn self, and lawyers get brought in to this mess, she'll wish she hadn't ever heard of PAGE SIX (and vice versa) I do know that.

Tatiana Beam is just a Media Ho. She is using Angelina's name to get herself into the media. So what if she adopted 2 kids herself. Just because you did an adoption and isn't famous doesnt mean that you have to drag some ridiculous gabbage out about a non-issue to bring yourself into the news. Her actions tell everyone with some brain that she is a total media whore and is doing everything to get her name out in the public.

She is the one that goes with this fake news to all the tabliods and NYPOST, Page Six etc to get her trash known . All she wants is media attention and some backdoor pocket money. She is the worst kind of Mother anyone can imagine .

Just because she has adopted kids doesn't mean she is the voice of all adoptive parent . Surely she is a shame and disgrace to all adoptive parents who is embrassed by her actions and words against all the goodness Ms Angelina Jolie is doing .

I am totally disgusted by the action of this Beam woman

How could this Tatina call herself an international adoption advocate when the only thing you heard or read about her is her criticism on Angelina. At most she is just an adoptive mother, and has no advocacy whatsoever. Clearly she is using Angelina or publicity, being the most high-profile adoptive mother in the world.

And worst, she has now sold her pics to Splash! where is her credibilty? she is a Fraud!!!

She's being investigated as we speak. I hope she has her emigre papers in order. It's kind of stupid to be a lay person and kick up dust because of a dumb obsession with a celebrity, when you don't even have your own ducks in a row. If I were this woman, I'd disappear quick.

Who the F.u*k is this Beam woman ? She is nothing more than some illegal mail ordered bride who is took some kids illegally away from some Russians .. geesh ... see how easy it is to post trash and talk rubbish .. That is what Beam is doing

Please note if you do a Google search on Tatiana Beams, her name only comes up in relation to Angelina Jolie and Page Six. Since she is supposed to be an adoption advocate one would think she would have other results absent of her "expert" opinion of Angelina Jolie. She does not. What this tells me is that Ms. Beams has an agenda and only fits the Page Six definition of the word advocate and expert.

Back on January 11th, 2007 Page Six ran what was to me a clear smear campaign against Angelina accusing her of shady adoption practices. Not only did they quote Ms. Beams but they also quoted David B. Ptasnik, Director of Americans Adopting Orphans. AAO is an actual non-profit adoption agency specializing in international adoptions. AAO is based in Seattle, WA with a branch in St. Louis, MO. Ms. Beams, has no affiliation with any adoption agencies whatsoever. Mr. Ptasnik's quote was positive but Page Six clearly tried to twist his quote to appear negative. Well, on January 11th, I contacted Mr. Ptasnik via email and since he is a true adoption assistance provider/expert, he responded. This is what he had to say:
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Hello Faye,

Thank you for your interest in adoption.

Please note that I defended Ms. Jolie. I stated that at the time she adopted Maddox that there was no reasonable way she could have known that there was a problem with her agency. It was clear to me that the reporter was looking for a negative slant on the adoption and the controversy. I was glad that I was able to provide some balance to her report.

David B. Ptasnik, Director, mailto:aao@orphans.com
Americans Adopting Orphans
Providing Choice and Freedom for Your Adoption
__________________________

Please note Mr. Ptasnik says "it was clear to me that the reporter was looking for a negative slant on adoption and controversy."

And it is clear to me Page Six is once again starting a smear campaign against Angelina Jolie and looking for controversy where there is a good chance there is none. So my next question is how much did Tatiana Beams get paid for her so-called expert advice and continues to get paid to bash Angelina Jolie?

Well obviously this Beams woman doesn't know what she's talking about because Angelina is considered a single parent since she is not married and Vietman adoption law doesn't have anything against people with live in partners adopting.

Murdoch's rags tried to create trouble after Z was adopted and now they are trying to jump the gun and see what they can destroy before some poor child gets a chance at a new life. Meanwhile Tat's is enjoying her 2 minutes of fame with the NY rag. I would like to see her butt sued by the Jolie-Pitts.

Tatiana Beams WORKS with Dave Ptasnik you morons. Check out her website regarding it. You should all be so lucky to have a cause to work for. Good luck with your legal studies and your fantasy relationship with Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt! HA!

http://www.tatianabeams.com/news_info.html

I can't figure out what Angelina Jolie did wrong. Aren't the adoption agencies supposed to put all the stuff in order before they hand over the kid? Aren't they supposed to follow the laws?

Oh! I get it! It was the ADOPTION AGENCY that did the international law breaking dance! Thanks, Tatiana! I was all confused there for a while.

I did a search on Tatiana Beams, like you people told me to do. I couldn't find any quotes about how awful Angelina Jolie was for adopting babies. Where are those, please? It seams this Beams woman was pointing out that adoption laws were bent for a celebrity which, in effect, has made adoption rules much more stringent in the aftermath of the publicity. It also appears that she does know her stuff about international adoption laws. Huh. Could it be possible that Beams doesn't really care about Angelina Jolie, like the rest of you sycophants, but rather concerns herself with the plight of orphaned children who will now be unavailable for adoption because of the public exposure of the unethical adoption agencies representing Jolie? Could it just be that this woman has a humanitarian concern equal to Angie's?

I know I am supposed to hate this crazy Beams woman and call her names and make disparaging remarks about her quest for the limelight but I suspect - I may be wrong and if I am, I want all of you to set me straight - but I do suspect that she may have a point. I also think that it is not directed against Angelina Jolie but at the practices committed by nefarious adoptions agencies taking advantage of people, even people with the money and clout of a lovely and talented movie star. I guess that doesn’t leave much hope for average folks like you and me.

Oh, I do hope I'm wrong. It would be so much more fun to hop over the ignoramus fence to play in the Jolie Mud Pitt. (With sincere apologies to Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt and Russian mail-order brides everywhere)

Beams doesn't work with David Ptasnik she just calles him her "colleague." She says that he helped her with her adoptions and that she refers people to him and she claims to be friednly with him. Fine. None of that means she works with him or for him.

Beams was wrong that it is illegal for a single person who lives with another person to adopt in Vietnam. Beams seems to be trying to become an expert based on her personal experience adopting. That's laudable but she's not an "expert." She's just another parent who became knowledgable through her own experiences. The unmarried, cohabitating couple who she refers to and whom she is trying to help adopt a child from Vietnam is a GAY couple. That is illegal. She never comes out and says that but it is clear to me she means that and just dances around that very important fact. Vietnam is quite homophobic and good for her for trying to change that but she did falsely claim that Jolie was somehow breaking the law which is completely false. I like how she had to clarify her earlier statement although she's still not accurate about the law. Now she just says that area of the law is unresolved.

Look at her site and pictures. She so wants publicity.

Hi Phoebe: Actually, Dave Ptasnik handled my adoption case after a great deal of corruption was discovered by the original agency. I worked with him; he worked with and for me in this sense. I consider him my mentor and when I first spoke to the NY Post I told them to call him. I knew that he would give a very informed and fair answer. And he did. Angelina Jolie’s Cambodian Agency was very corrupt. As to whether she knew or not is unknown. And it really wasn’t the point. The point was that it is important to call out the corruption in adoption. That means the corrupt agencies and practices. This particular agency was very corrupt resulting in the Directors being sent to prison.

Regarding the couple I advised concerning a two-parent, unmarried adoption; they were and are actually straight. He is an attorney and she is a special education teacher. They have been together for over 10 years. Their application was denied before a home-study even began. The law regarding what is 'single' is vague at best and is all too often used to discriminate even against straight couples.

For the record, I never said Angelina was breaking the law. I am not quoted in the paper as saying such. I did say that it was a contradiction of the law and I stand by that in the sense that most un-married straight couples are not afforded such an opportunity. The law has been most commonly defined as 'single' meaning single as in not a two-parent family or living with someone. I guess it would have been better to say that the agencies themselves were contradicting their own definition of the law.

Anyway you look at it, I never said Angelina shouldn't adopt nor do I believe she shouldn’t adopt. What I believe is that there are thousands of Americans that want to adopt overseas and domestically. The system is complicated with many roadblocks. There is also a great deal of corruption. As I stated to the NY Post in January, I wish very much that Angelina would expose such issues and discuss it thus clearing the way for more opportunities for adoptive parents and children. Is it Ms. Jolie’s responsibility to discuss the issue? Absolutely not. I only thought that as a humanitarian, she might consider doing so as it does benefit the children when issues concerning International Adoption are discussed in an open debate.

Do I want publicity? No. How could I possibly benefit from it especially when I am shredded in Blogs like this? It's hurtful and it leaves me wondering why I work for this at all. I do not gain more clients by putting my name out there and I was hesitant to do so. Adoption is a very private and personal matter and by me discussing any aspect of it as it relates to my clients or to myself is a risk to that privacy. I must also state that I believe that Angelina Jolie’s adoption is a very private matter. The issues surrounding are not so private either because of an obsession by the media or by the never-ending quest from fans to see photos and read information about her. You have to ask yourselves just who is feeding the machine here.

I wasn't paid for my comments. This was never an attempt to smear one's name. I am only an adoptive parent with a great deal of experience in handling difficult cases. I am dedicated to the fight against the corrupt and criminal nature of adoption. As I stated on my website, I am just one person. I do not think that I am independently important nor do I want to be. This is a collective effort. I believe there are many advocating on behalf of International Adoption. I think different people have different issues for which they focus. That's a wonderful thing as no one owns the market as a whole when it comes to an issue or a location surrounding International Adoption. We can all do something. We can all make a difference.

Another issue to address concerning my quote that was something like ‘Angelina is not a hero to adoption;’ I stand by this as do many adoptive parents in my circle. No one is a hero when they adopt. This is a very important thing to understand. As soon as you are portrayed as a hero because you adopt, it immediately implies that your child is a victim. It suggests that you have somehow 'saved' the child. Any Adoption Agency will tell you that yes, it's wonderful that we are helping children but first and foremost, we are creating families. Most people enter an adoption because of their yearning to become a parent. I do believe that my children most likely have more opportunities by being raised in the United States but implying or having anyone imply to them that they are 'lucky' is a devastating burden for them to carry throughout their lives.

I never anticipated so much hate directed toward me. Although I have received a great deal of support from other parents, the assumptions made about me on various blogs have been hurtful and untrue. Every single person from the media who has ever contacted me receives a list of references. I would not do it any other way. I have spoken to a number of media outlets and usually refer them on to others who I believe will have better insight into the issue. People are afraid to address a celebrity adoption for fear of the backlash. The fans can be vicious without understanding the true intent. It’s important also to understand just how many celebrities adopt. There are many who have adopted children both here and overseas. Adoption is not limited to only those celebrities we see everyday, there are many who quietly move through the process. I think it’s wonderful when anyone adopts. I hope everyone understands this as they should also understand that there are thousands of ‘everyday’ Americans adopting each year and they should all be commended.

So do I think celebrities should receive preferential treatment when it comes to adoption? I’m not sure how to answer this. I suspect most don’t even know that their being moved ahead of the line and I would hope that if they did know, they would address it. There are many issues being discussed right now by other groups and press about procedures surrounding this adoption. One is the referral of child versus picking of the child and so forth. Currently, Vietnam does not allow one to ‘choose’ a child. It is based on referral only. There are parents out there wanting to know what is going on. I honestly do not know anything about this particular subject.

Anyway, I hope this clears some issues. And No I don’t live under a rock. Yes, I am in touch with the reality and privileges given to celebrities. Yes, I have a great deal of knowledge and experience in International Adoption. No, the NY Post didn’t pay me. And I think most importantly for you to know is that I actually find Angelina Jolie to be a very talented and beautiful actress who appears to be very kind. I have never stated anything to the contrary.

Oh yes, and about that picture above. ‘They’ cropped out my beautiful husband holding our beautiful son who happens to be Asian standing next to me.

Right on Tatiana, Eloquent, detailed, and straight up. It's not often that someone writes such a thoughtgful and considered response after being slimed. Continue your good works!

Tatiana, next time watch what you say to NYPOST, you started the slime with they way you were quoted. The couple you mentioned before were gay now they are straight and even then Vietnamese adoption law clearly stated they want single or married couple to apply, why it's hard for you to determine what is legally single or married is beyond me. You are the one who put yourself on blast and if you had listen to your mentor Dave, you would've known the Post just wanted to slime Angie and you played along. I don't feel sorry for you or pity you, you tried to make things difficult for another adopting mum. Karma is a bitch.

Excellent points Hope. This woman did not "clarify" and retract her comments until she was called out about them. Her motivations were and are obvious.

Tatiana, my question to you is why are you questioning this adoption when the likes of Sharon Stone is freely able to adopt blond, blue eyed American male children with ease? American's are on waiting lists sometimes over 10 yrs waiting for a child like that and yet Stone does it with ease and without question.

I wish no ill will to Ms. Stone but considering that some American's have gone overseas for adoption because it's next to impossible to adopt within the US like Stone I question where is the outrage or questioning over that.? Stone has gone on record as saying "this is what they give me" Highly unlikely and very suspicious to say the least.

Try concentrating there, you may actually do some good instead of focusing on Jolie for your own alterior motives

Tatiana, just stop it. If you were at all a professional person you wouldn't be trolling photo blogs and fan sites reading about and defending yourself. Creating a website and posting pictures of yourself hoping to get in the news and on television. You got your ass handed to you and now you're back tracking.

To actually post that it's unknown if Angelina Jolie knew the adoption agency in Seattle was using illegal means is just plain lazy. It proves the undercurrent to your message and motives.

Jolie's adoption of her son Maddox went under investigation when that place was closed down. Jolie's adoption was actually one of the few from that agency that was handled LEGALLY. Now, you should know this. Everyone knows this. It's a matter of public record. To intimate that it's up in the air and not certain is just plain morally wrong.

And as Hope has said upthread what is so difficult for you to understand the meaning of legally single, head of household or married? Check your IRS form they'll explain it to you.

Tatiana, I've never heard Angelina Jolie call herself an hero for adopting her children. What I've always heard from her was that her children saved her or made her a women (in the truest sense).

What I don't like about you is your claims of being an adoption expert when you clearly not. You're a parent that had an bad experience adopting and got help and past the information along to other and formed a support group.

Now, just like you Angie had an horrible time adopting Maddox and ran into the same problems, unbeknownst to her, you have with corrupted officials and agency, except being a celebrity those issues were brought to her attention through the media and corresponding oversight group, who made her jump thru hoops to comply with regulations.

Because of her UN work with children she does have the ability to network and find experts in related areas who inform her of those agencies that have good reputations.

But government agencies in other countries she has no control over and by releasing the name of the people who she works with and their agencies help inform other parents.

Now if you want to change the laws in this country to make it easier to adopt then do so and stop backstabbing innocent people because they're celebrity to highlight your agenda.

"People are afraid to address a celebrity adoption for fear of the backlash" yeah right, tell that to Madonna, and since everybody is so afraid it was up to you fearless Tatiana to stop Angelina's adoption in Vietnam, please do not make me laugh, no matter how much backtracking you do now, you were confrontational in the NYPost, they were determinated to smear Angelina and you were determinated to help them, and actions have consequences, if you are going to open your mouth an attack another human being that is trying to do some good in this world, be prepared to be attacked yourself. Good thing you do not want publicity because fortunaly for some of us your 15 minutes are up.

You do have to laugh at this lady. She thinks she's some mad model posing for Vogue.

Give me a break. She doesn't want publicity? Then how come Splash got her photo and posted this story well before she created her own website and uploaded the very same picture?

The interesting thing is that you (posting hatred) don't have a clue about what is going on. You act like she offended you when she spoke about adoption. You obviously have not read her post or her website. I gather you were probably only directed to this post from Tatiana Beams own website or by her in what she believed would helpful clarification . (who is trolling the posts?)

Your obsession with Angelina Jolie is unhealthy. Your lack of knowledge of the subject is extensive. Your hatred of Tatiana Beams is your own bad karma (ref above). Tatiana Beams works for the opening of adoption not against it. She has fought for families and children to be united. (I have spoken to them).

I was told by someone I work with to contact Tatiana Beams. First I wrote to her with a list of questions. She responded, then gave me her list of references and then told me to call them and her anytime. I didn't know what her motive was. I expected her to be sort of this crazy outspoken, self-righteous person. Instead I talked to someone surprisingly funny, very genuine and extremely warm. She was surprised by the response from Jolie fans in what amounts to about three lines of quotes. I was unaware of this until she directed me here. How did she know about it? Splash contacted her. She has the email. They asked her for a high-res photo of herself. She told them she doesn't have any media shots but they could take a look at her website. I asked her to send me the emails and she did. They were from a guy named Gavin at Splash. I think he was very misleading and setting the whole thing up to be malicious. She also gave me the name of the couple you question and although I think it's irrelevant, they are straight. She was willing to give me as much information I wanted once I established who I was. She does support gay rights but this case did not involve a gay couple or anything to do with gay and lesbian couples adopting in Vietnam.

You people will die for Angelina Jolie and trust me she and Brad Pitt are frightened by your devotion not impressed by it. 15 minutes? How do you know who does or doesn't know Tatiana Beams? Why and how would she be contacted? Do you think it was random or is it possible that there are people already familiar with her and her work? Did it ever occur to you that there are people out there who have the ear of people in the media who then turned them to Tatiana. Her work is not public. People working for free and on policy are usually not looking for publicity. Allot of people say that Angelina Jolie is obsessed with publicity. There are many people questioning Angelina's never-ending need for attention. You have no idea just what she, Tatiana Beams, is working on. You have no idea and neither did I. She doesn't flaunt her work. She doesn't say much about it. Tatiana's work would be considered by most of you to be boring. The spotlight Angelina Jolie gave adoption was an opportunity to discuss policies of International Adoption not an opportunistic person looking to discuss Angelina Jolie. Only people obsessed with Angelina Jolie would read into this way. Did you ever consider that Angelina was not even aware of the problems existing in International Adoption until now?

The angle I can't figure out is how you think she is backstabbing Angelina Jolie? She spoke about adoption procedures and laws. I read the quotes over and over and other than saying something about Angelina shouldn't speak about Madonna's adoption because of own agency's issues, I haven't found any negativity toward Angelina as a person. I'm still not sure if the first article about Madonna was spun by Tatiana or the Post. Most of it was written by the Post who recently deemed Angelina as a possible heroin addict again. I talked to adoption agencies and the ones I talked to said that if a client admitted to using heroin, being suicidal and cutting themselves in the past would probably not be approved in a home study. Either way it is all fact based. If you search the subject as I did, Angelina Jolie's agency was in the press at the time she adopted Maddox. More people have questioned Angelina Jolie's stability as a person than her adoptions. Tatiana Beams said nothing about Angelina Jolie as a person and even when I pushed her she never said anything negative. Her facts were relevant and stayed on topic. How do you know that no one from the Jolie- Pitt team has not contacted Ms. Beams to apologize for treatment from the fans? You don't. You are the ones that drive the press and paparazzi to hunt Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt. Your obsession is frightening and what was a story about adoption is turning out to be a better story about fanatics and their obsession with Angelina Jolie. CNN recently did a story on it. Watch it. It's called 'Chasing Angelina' and the bottom line is that if you weren't supplying the need, they would not be chasing her.

You opinions are yours and everyone has this right but they are hateful and not well thought out. Your behavior reminds me of piranhas attacking in a frenzied school of hysteria. Your hatred seems unreasonable. Your chances of speaking to Tatiana Beams are much greater than your chances of ever speaking with Angelina Jolie. Your attacks on Tatiana Beams for attempting to write something kind to you are blind with hate and it speaks volumes about the direction our society is going. It gives me something great to work with. I searched a bunch of blogs and it appears to be the same people saying the same thing over and over. I'm pretty sure I saw some of you on another blog. It's all very bizarre to me.

The IRS thing above. The USCIS does not use the IRS definition. It 's an 171-H thing that adoption agencies use. I didn't know what that was but I do now and I doubt you know anything about it either.

(Above) I know Corynne Steindler from NYU but not personally. I can tell you that at 23, she is much more ahead of the game career wise than most of us could ever hope to be. You hatred toward her is unfounded and it's common for people in the press to hang up on "crazies.'"

If you are true fans then consider your position and just how you wish to represent your star. You've made it very clear to me and it's not stable

Trevor...Tatiana is that you? She can backpeddle all she wants and pretend to be hurt, but she has caused this herself. She pretended to be an expert and attacked Angelina while she absolutely knew nothing about the adoption laws in Vietnam. She has been hinting and stating ever since Angelina adopted Maddox that Angelina has been doing something shady. This is the background. However, she's been proven wrong each time. Maybe next time she learns to educate herself before shooting her mouth off. Or maybe as a non-expert, she should just shut up and let someone like David Ptasnik, who actually knows what he's talking about do the talking.

Your hatred seems unreasonable. Your chances of speaking to Tatiana Beams are much greater than your chances of ever speaking with Angelina Jolie.
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Are you that completely delusional or that stupid? You think people say kind things about Angelina on a blog in hopes of meeting Angelina? Yup, you must be Tatiana. Face it, you print and say garbage in the media, people will expose you.

Trevor says:

It gives me something great to work with. I searched a bunch of blogs and it appears to be the same people saying the same thing over and over. I’m pretty sure I saw some of you on another blog. It’s all very bizarre to me.

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OMG hahahaha. cuz there can only be 10 Angelina fans or 10 people in the world who can smell bullshit and call the bullshitter our for it. You don't have to be an Angelina fan to know that Tatiana is spouting off rubbish and is actually hurting adoption.

The Vietnamese law says that homosexual people or homosexual couples cannot adopt. This woman is and advocate for many gay people who want to adopt including two of her best freinds (male couple). Vietnam law does not permit both hettrosexuals in a live in relationship to adopt - only one is permitted to adopt as a single even though they are living together. Once again note the distinction - homosexual - no ---- hetrosexual yes. Google state country country vietnam it will give you the website - then scroll down to read the Vietnamese rules.

Tatiana - you did it again defending yourself. You really should post the original email or posting which all these people were referring to. That way it will be harder for you to change what you supposedly "said". Below is a quote from your post on this website - you are implying that Angelina picked this child rather than having a child chosen for her and that is contrary to Vietnamese policy. Correct on the policy but if you read any of the official statements from the orphanage you would have read that she was given one file regarding one child and she accepted that child. You are blinded by your own issues. Here is your quote and implication: " There are many issues being discussed right now by other groups and press about procedures surrounding this adoption. One is the referral of child versus picking of the child and so forth. Currently, Vietnam does not allow one to ‘choose’ a child. It is based on referral only. There are parents out there wanting to know what is going on. I honestly do not know anything about this particular subject.

Response to Trevor 3/17 1:02 pm

Please read the following :--

Your logic of referencing Angies thoughts/actions and growing pains 10 years ago holds no water .

You were once a teenager .. are you going to be known as one forever ? you were once wearing diapers .. are you going to be known as a diaper wearing woman forever ? you were once a smoker but quit years ago … are you going to be known as a smoker today ?

Everyone has a past and everyone learn, grown and mature from the life lessons.

Unless, she is currently smoking, doing coke, tanning, talking without action, lying, obsessively harming herself through botox and plastic surgery then you can call her out on it .

……..But instead Angelina has taken on greater roles since 2001, she’s avail herself to UNCHR, supporting numerous causes helping the world in her own little ways, took up responsibility to be a mother and now a proud mom to 3 beautiful children. These actions can only be associated with one who is compassionate, responsible , nuturing and loving .

But You continue to TWIST every action of Angelina…

.. the reality is that you all have it mixed up with someone else who we all know is Jennifer Aniston, one who is still living her life like she has been 10 years ago - not taking responsibility, not maturing , nothing changed .. not her looks, not her hair, not her brain and whatever actions that are associated with her …she continue to live in the dellusional past . Tha is what I call scary and mentally unstable.

In conclusion, you cant lie you are on a campaign to smear Angie's reputation.

Remember, you will reap what you sow.

Oh Tatiana using the name "Trevor" I guess she figured out that Trevor Neilson is Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie's advisor who gave official statements to the Western press about the adoption.

Tatiana = stalker. Tatiana = Trevor. Why the sensitivity about the photo's on your web site and the one posted here?

Honey, people can see through you like a clear pane of glass.

Press Release from Adoptions from the Heart:

In applying to adopt 3-yr-old Pax Thien, Ms. Jolie followed the same course as all prospective adoptive parents who apply to our Vietnam program. Throughout her adoption process, which began in the summer of 2006, she has received no preferential treatment from the Vietnamese government or Adoptions From The Heart, and contrary to earlier reports, her application was not fast tracked.

Despite rumors that she chose her child, Ms. Jolie received a referral, just like any other parent adopting from Vietnam. In late 2006, she was referred a child who had been legally determined to be available for adoption and who fit within the parameters for which she had been approved to adopt. She accepted the first and only referral given to her.

In addition, we can confirm the statement given by Nguyen Van Trung, Director of Tam Binh Orphanage, that Ms. Jolie has neither made, nor promised to make, any financial contributions to his orphanage. Adoptions From The Heart celebrates the miracle of adoption with the Jolie-Pitt family, as we do with all of our clients, and wish them much joy.

http://www.adoptionsfromtheheart.org/pdfs/news/jolie_press_release3_07.pdf

[How do you know that no one from the Jolie- Pitt team has not contacted Ms. Beams to apologize for treatment from the fans? ]

You DID NOT just write that? You owe me a keyboard because I just spit out my water. Good gracious, the delusion of grandeur, the hopes of contact to the celebrity world.

Tatiana, step away from the computer, stop trolling celebrity blogs and photo site with posting of Angelina and Brad Pitt. Go read your kids a story.

Trevor-

You said you went from blog to blog. Why in the world can a person having time and energy to go from blog to blog unless he/she is hired by a person.

Could it be you are paid by Huvanne (Jen's publicist)? It has been proven that Huvanne or his staff read blogs. It was proved at the perez site which Huvanne sent a email to perez asking him to lighten on Aniston.

People dont hate T Beams. These people are trying to expose who T Beams is.

Does anyone seriously think Tatiana's husband actually has sex with her?

"...people with power, money, and yes even celebrities receive special treatment." Well that is certainly true but your article is basically stating that Ms. Beams is wrong for advocating social justice. Completely ridiculous!

PS - I highly doubt her picture was "sold" to splash as it is on Ms. Beam's public website.

Oh people stop it with Aniston/Huvane thing. This woman is delusional all on her own.

Think about it, She created her own website after she read (because she trolls the internet about Angelina) postings on Just Jared and celebritybabies.com from people who were ripping her inaccurate statements left and right.

She didn't even know that adoptions were closed in Vietnam until 2005.

Another thing... Tatiana, you can't hide your writing style. It's the same as Trevor's. No one believes it isn't you because it is YOU. The paragraph spacing, the phrasing and wording are too obvious.

You're just making a fool out of yourself

I went to Ms. Beams web site.

So far nothing coming out of Ms. Beams’ side is credible; many people posted doubting the legitimacy of her web site contents and her credentials. If I were a parent in search of an adoption agency, after reading the posts in various blogs , I would not touch her agency with a stick - consider the picture on the web site, who would want to adopt from an agent whose face is half-covered for a first impression?

"Did you ever consider that Angelina was not even aware of the problems existing in International Adoption until now?"

Oh brother! A woman who is a Goodwill Ambassador the United Nations High Commision on Refugees, who's traveled to over 20 countries, 30 refugee camps, who's adopted three children from three different countries, who meets with presidents of other countries, attends meetings on Capitol Hill, who got a bill passed in Congress, who attends meetings and sits on panels with the likes of Condi Rice, Colin Powell, Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, Hillary Clinton, and so on and so on...

No she would never know anything about problems with international adoption.

Tatiana aka Trevor you really are foolish

Trevor, if you have a job why are you trolling blogs looking for post about Tatianna and what adoption advocate cares so much about what's said on blogs. I wish Perez will take you up, you will probably have a nervous breakdown by the time he is done with you. You all forget that celebrities are human too and when you as an adoptive parents decide to slander another parents just to get publicity, it will surely come back to bite you. Angie never said she was a hero for adoption, you sauid that and you continue your malicious attack on her so people who admire her her are now defending her and giving you a taste of your own medicine and you can't stand. Little girl you should know better than to play with the big dogs. You continue to seek attention by linking this site on your blog. Where's NYPOST to defend you now? That's what i thought.

Well, out of curiosity, I went to her site. I'm not impressed !!!

I’m skeptical about this Tatiana Beams.

Why didnt she mention any real credentials? Or how about being a member or any recognized adoption organization. There are plenty of them. Is she saying that she is just an “informed” person who offers advice?

Why did she ( a couple months ago) go to NY post Page 6 and strout negativity on Angelina's adoption?

If one of her main concerns is to get more couples, unmarried and gay, to adopt, why didnt Beams do SUFFICIENT research before attacking Jolie?

Ms. Beams actions seemed to show that she did not wish for this adoption to take place. It makes no sense to me.

I really question if Ms. Beams is knowledgeable in international adoption particularly on the country Vietnam.

"I would not touch her agency with a stick - consider the picture on the web site, who would want to adopt from an agent whose face is half-covered for a first impression?"

She doesn't have an agency. She's some obsessed Angelina stalker who claims she's an "advocate" and "expert" on international adoption. Her problem is that there are plenty of people who really are and they're calling her on her BS

What is this site and who are you people? Question. When Splash going to post your photos? Oh yeah! The won't. You're most likely fat hags. Puhleeease people. Your jealousy of this woman because of her ability to get more attention than you is hilarious. I was turned on to this bizarro world site by a friend. Your crazy rants just confirm you instability as Trevor errr Huvane stated. Oh yeah and that agency press release didn't mention ANYTHING about what Tatiana was talking about. They're talking about that whole fast track crap. Go harass all those parents on other sites bitching and moaning about how the she-witch voodoo wench jumped to the head of the line. Transsssferrrr your hatred freaks!

to the poster who said Angie criticized Madonna, please read the following article from the people's web site. Also read the last paragraph which Madonna said the press always twist things.

from people magazine web site.

Angelina Jolie: We Should Support Madonna

MONDAY JANUARY 08, 2007 05:15 PM EST UPDATED

By Stephen M. Silverman

Despite her comments in a French magazine, Angelina Jolie WASN'T trying to criticize Madonna for adopting a child from Malawi, she says.

"The article included many falsehoods," Jolie said in a statement on Monday. "I said many positive things that were omitted. I feel we must focus on the present and I encourage everyone to be supportive so that every child can adjust nicely to their new home."

But Jolie, whose son Maddox, 5, and Zahara, who turned 2 on Monday, are from Cambodia and Ethiopia, respectively, has sympathy for the singer. "I have been horrified by the attacks she’s been subjected to," she says. "All that should count is the happiness of her little David."

Daily 10 (TV)showed an interview of Madonna. She was asked about what Angelina said. Madonna said "I don’t know what Angelina said or if Angelina said anything at all. You know how the media likes to twist things. So since I don’t know, I not going to speak on the subject. "

Um dummy 4:41 the adoption process started in June of 2006

The adoption agency that Angelina used issued the following response to clear up rumors regarding Pax’s adoption.

“In applying to adopt 3-yr-old Pax Thien, Ms. Jolie followed the same course as all prospective adoptive parents who apply to our Vietnam program. Throughout her adoption process, which began in the summer of 2006, she has received no preferential treatment from the Vietnamese government or Adoptions From The Heart, and contrary to earlier reports, her application was not fast tracked.

Despite rumors that she chose her child, Ms. Jolie received a referral, just like any other parent adopting from Vietnam. In late 2006, she was referred a child who had been legally determined to be available for adoption and who fit within the parameters for which she had been approved to adopt. She accepted the first and only referral given to her.

In addition, we can confirm the statement given by Nguyen Van Trung, Director of Tam Binh Orphanage, that Ms. Jolie has neither made, nor promised to make, any financial contributions to his orphanage. Adoptions From The Heart celebrates the miracle of adoption with the Jolie-Pitt family, as we do with all of our clients, and wish them much joy.”

– Heidi Gonzalez, Vietnam Adoption Coordinator for Adoptions From The Heart

sigh...freaks. all of you freaks. go get your slimfast shakes and try to get a life. I have one so I'm moving on. Oh! Tatiana Beams has gay friends! Wow. I like her even more now! Thanks Splash!

"Oh! Tatiana Beams has gay friends! Wow. I like her even more now! "

Oh, I'm SURE you do.

ummmm Betty. Are you mad at Angelina's gay brother? Because you sound a little homophobic. I bet Jenny Shimuzu really gets in your ugly craw!

Ohhh you caught me. Yer wicked smaat

Is this person for real? She claims to be a professional and she's posting on photo agency sites and celebrity blogs? Why would anyone take anything serious she says specifically when it's in accurate and full of half truths?

then rudy why are you here? she didn't post anything. they posted it. and no one would even know what it is unless they searched for tatiana. it must be why you are here are rudy. is that it? they posted her not you. are you real?

in fact i wish one of you would try to sell your photo to splash. do u think they would post it? do you think you are that interesting? isn't that what you want. u want so much to be heard. what about being seen? i think very scary for most of us. to see u that is.

Because Tatiana isn't an advocate or anything, she's just an adoptee mum who wants to get ahead and it backfire. Who gives a shit what is said about them on blogs except you are Aniston or dunst. We are people you will never meet and won't even have giving you the time of the day if you didn't try to slander another adopting mum just because she is a celebrity and she can't fight back. All the news jumped on her comment in January about Angie not being a hero in the adoption community but yet she had only praise for Madonna's adoption of a baby with a living parent and in a country where adopting is supposed to take 2 years and there are people still waiting. Then she did it again in Febuary with her comment that Angie is getting special treatment because she really isn't single, only an illiterate wouldn't know the difference between legally married and co habitting couple legally single and married couple. Now after feel the brunt of teh fire, she is backtracking. You are a disgrace to adopting community and advocates for adoption.

I think Tatiana realized she has to change the way she writes because it was too obvious she posted as "Trevor" Now, it's too obvious that she's trying to disguise it. u r funny T

I think I've finally figured it out. Tatiana thinks she and her husband are the Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie of Seattle.

Oh.My.God! You have a very long way to go Tatiana

lol

aren't you slandering an adoptive MUM right now? ummm she never said Angie baby was getting special treatment. and hopie gal i don't she ever praised madonna. nothing direct on eith of those people. Harpie, she certainly has your painties in a wad. I think you care Hope. I think you really care. your little angry Harpie rant oh I mean Hopie rant proves how kind and caring to the world you are. Hope it's time to sell your photo to splash. New MUM of the year!oh hopie i think i love you. can you pls forward you organizaation info? cheerio Hope!

What time is it in the U.K. ummmmmm?

wait 61, 62, 63, but what about those photos of you on splash and your website? pls send the link. okay. u win. i think everyone with a life is outta here. u r free to spew your self loathing hate among yourselves.

It gives me something great to work with. I searched a bunch of blogs and it appears to be the same people saying the same thing over and over. I’m pretty sure I saw some of you on another blog.
Comment by Trevor — March 17, 2007 @ 1:02 pm

My theory: Trevor is patrolling blogs because he is a friend of Tatiana Beams and is doing research. Notice how he writes "It gives me something great to work with."

Then if you go to Tatiana's website she writes "Harsh words, my response (Post# 21). Go Here. Update: We no longer need the link. We got what we needed. Thanks for the response and the great material."

So Trevor if my theory is correct please make sure to do some research over at Female First. Please linger on the posts which threaten death to the Jolie-Pitt family or one of my personal favorites such as the racist tirades. We wouldn't want your "research" to be one sided, now would we? One last thing, for someone who criticizes others for their "hateful" words about Tatiana, your hateful words about Angelina Jolie makes you a hypocrite. I'll just save this entire webpage for my own personal research. I'm not much of a writer but lucky me I know someone who is with an incredible readership.

Check this out peeps... one of your own on this site. a Jolie hater has come running to the femalefirst forum looking for help to insult and attack you :> for supporting Jolie... here is her cry for attention and link :>

"All I can say is thank god I found you! I would have never even known about this site had some crazy piranha fan of Jolie's pointed me on to you. 'It' accused me of being 'in' with you. I won't tell you who I am but let's just say 'I spoke out about the adoption. NOT Jolie. The adoption' and ever since I have been harassed by crazy demented frightening obsessed fans. I had no idea. I really had no idea. But at least this site brings humor to the whole thing. Again- Thank you. Thank you all. I especially love the quote about the mass suicide pact by the loons should Brad and Angelina break-up. I am laughing my butt off because it's funny but sadly it's so true. I had nooooo idea. None. If you're interested in stirring their little hornet nest, go here: http://splashnewsonline.celebuzz.com/2007/03/05/illegal-adoption-for-angelina-jolie/"

http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=127736&start=15

I'm going to post Heidei Gonzales released in behalf of AFTH again in its entirety [credit to a poster at JJ]- Ms. Beams, I suggest you do extensive research first before you make another statement. I have one word for you - INCOMPETENCE.

Angelina Jolie’s Adoption Agency Issues Statement

WYNNEWOOD, Pa. – March 15, 2007 - Heidi Gonzalez, Vietnam Adoption
Coordinator for Adoptions From The Heart, has issued the following response to
inquiries regarding Angelina Jolie’s adoption from Vietnam.

“In applying to adopt 3-yr-old Pax Thien, Ms. Jolie followed the same course as all
prospective adoptive parents who apply to our Vietnam program. Throughout her
adoption process, which began in the summer of 2006, she has received no preferential treatment from the Vietnamese government or Adoptions From The Heart, and, contrary to earlier reports, her application was not fast-tracked.

Despite rumors that she chose her child, Ms. Jolie received a referral, just like any other parent adopting from Vietnam. In late 2006, she was referred a child who had been legally determined to be available for adoption and who fit within the parameters for which she had been approved to adopt. She accepted the first and only referral given to her.

In addition, we can confirm the statement given by Nguyen Van Trung, Director of Tam Binh Orphanage, that Ms. Jolie has neither made, nor promised to make, any financial contributions to his orphanage.

Adoptions From The Heart celebrates the miracle of adoption with the Jolie-Pitt family, as we do with all of our clients, and wishes them much joy.”

Background:

• Adoptions From The Heart (AFTH) is a licensed, non-profit agency offering domestic and international adoption. Based in Wynnewood, Pa., a Philadelphia suburb, the agency has 12 offices, and is licensed in PA, NJ, DE, VA, WV and NY, and approved to place children with
families in CT.

• Founded in 1985, by Maxine Chalker, an adoptee herself and former adoption social worker, who serves as executive director. AFTH has earned a reputation for pioneering innovative services to improve the overall adoption process, including being one of the first agencies on the East Coast more than a decade ago to begin offering the option of international adoption - well ahead of the rapidly growing trend. Today, AFTH works with orphanages throughout Asia, Europe and South America.

• AFTH had placed 250 Vietnamese children from 1995 to 2003, when the Vietnamese government closed the program. In April 2006, when Vietnam reopened adoption to the U.S., AFTH received became licensed in Ho Chi Minh City to place children. Since then, 30 families have completed adoptions through AFTH; 22 others are in various stages of the process currently with referrals, and still more are on a waiting list.

• AFTH currently works with four orphanages in Vietnam, including Tam Binh, from which Angelina Jolie adopted.

• AFTH facilitators work directly with the Department of International Adoption (DIA) in Hanoi, the Ministry of Justice and the orphanages to process the required paperwork and help facilitate adoptions through the Vietnamese government. In Vietnam, facilitators escort families to appointments with USCIS (U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services), the U.S. Embassy and required doctor visits. They arrange tours and generally accommodate families’ needs while they are in Vietnam.

• AFTH has provided ongoing humanitarian aid to the orphanages with which it works, including such current projects as helping to offset daily expenses at Tam Binh orphanage, and funding construction of a new emergency room at Go Vap orphanage, creation of a “milk room” that connects to the infant room at Thi Nghe orphanage, and the purchase of new furniture for the Picasso orphanage.

• Jolie was referred to AFTH by Jane Aronson, MD, a New York-based pediatrician who specializes in adoption medicine and treated Jolie’s Ethiopian adopted daughter Zahara.

ummmmm malaya. this doesn't have anything to do with what Tatiana was talking about in either article. Did you do your research? how is singapore these days? i hear angelina might be looking to adopt you.

snorrrre...oh i was supposed to go but i couldn't keep from sticking around for more freak, homophobic hate rants. it's just so damn amusing. dear little ones, i pose this question again, what does tatiana beams helping of gay couples have to do with anything? we need to stay focussed and on topic. it will help you in your debate class. you're never going to get good marks if you keep arguing without making a relevent point. snorrrre. Remember Brad and Angelina like the gay people. they don't like you. heh:)

so if trevor=tatiana then that means that teehee = hag + Faye + Hope+ Maylaysia + she-Witch + Hold-Up Ima nut = MC I'm scared. trevor obviously has tatiana's back but who's shaved yours recently. Did u know that Jolie is shagging her married Trev in SA. HA! yes indeed the veiled reference to the man Jolie has possessed is very interesting. Brad today = trevor tomorrow. will there be a trevolina loonfest soon?

Hey Truth Shall Set You Free person. I'm looking looking looking. Where are Trevor's devastating hate comments about Angelina. Please paste and comment. That's awesome when you do that. I'm sloooowww. I need the help.

69, Tatiana Reams made a lot of inferences in her PAGE SIX slams, the singles adopting in 'Nam issue was but just one. ALL of her PAGE SIX negative inferences against the Jolie adoption have been discounted, and exposed as untrue.

I am amazed at how many people have put the smackdown on PAGE SIX and their 'hitwoman' TATIANA REAMS - congratlations...I didn't even know all that had transpired since I did my little bit of research and shared it on another board. Great going! It just goes to show some of these outfits that they can't pull the wool over people's eyes anymore, not when in most instances we can do research better than they ever thought about doing. These slandering gossip pages, and media whores need to recognize that they don't know who they're dealing with on the open web. Hell, we could all be journalists, reporters, law enforcement people - and we might just have a stake in how adoption is maligned and endangered ourselves.

Not to smart PAGE SIX, and TATIANA.

Look, there's only 3 things people need to know about TATIANA BEAMS.

1)She was contacted & contracted by PAGE SIX to do a HIT on Angelina Jolie, to DELIBERATELY stir up FALSE CONTROVERSY (ala Madonna & Malawi) re Angelina Jolie, in the hopes that the same kind of rabid nasty reaction to a little child's adoption would occur, and so Ms. Beams could get her name in the kleig lights. Instead she's only become known as a (now) NOTORIOUS pawn for PAGE SIX. PAGE SIX claims BEAMS sent THEM an 'open letter.' Now, IF she's an actual person, and not the creation of PAGE SIX's byline HACKS (Waves to Corrine Steindler, Richard Johnson, and Froedlich and the rest), she should KNOW, there's not a family alive interested in adoption that would touch her with a 197 foot pole considering her only notoriety is in slamming Jolie, considering her spectacular LACK of credentials, and ESPECIALLY when she goes around slurring other prospective adoptive parents IN GOSSIP PAGES.

2)Let's be REAL clear on who and what, we're talking about: Beams did NOT give an interview to a New York Post 'journalist' ( I use the term loosely, as we ARE talking about the NYP). BEAMS gave her slandering 'soundbites' to PAGE SIX. PAGE SIX is a CELEBRITY GOSSIP COLUMN *within* the tabloidesque New York Post. PAGE SIX is even LESS reliable than TED CASABLANCAS at E! Or Mike Walker at the NATIONAL ENQUIRER. Why PEREZ HILTON has more BANKABLE ITEMS! Ask yourselves WHY a woman purporting to be a LEGIT so-called 'ADOPTION ADVOCATE' concerned for the children, supposedly working with families, agencies, consulates, and governments (so she CLAIMS, there is NO evidence supporting it), would ONLY speak to the HACKS who write for PAGE SIX (a RIDICULOUS gossip column)?!

Yeah...exactly. It's like if Woodward & Bernstein had taken Watergate to the National Enquirer. Or if the Valerie Plame story broke in LIFE & STYLE.

3)Let's be even MORE CLEAR. The evidence SHOWS that TATIANA BEAMS has GIVEN NO OTHER interviews, made NO OTHER statements, contributed NO OTHER stories, reports, or information about ADOPTION or ANYTHING ELSE, on the OPEN WEB *EXCEPT* for her PAGE SIX NEGATIVE comments slamming Angelina. That's RIGHT. Oh, there's about 800-1200 hits/results for this lady, but they ALL have to do with ANGELINA! You know how it works - basically other websites LINK to the online PAGE SIX articule, and they MASS reproduce and multiply. HOWEVER, when you do a search on TATIANA BEAMS *WITHOUT* the word(s) Angelina Jolie - GUESS what comes up?!

NOTHING.

The woman did not even EXIST *ANYWHERE* prior to her Angelina BASHING! I couldn't find one paper, one interview on adoption, one essay, one blog, one newsgroup, one second, third or fourth-hand mention of her name by a family or an agency. ZIP! NADA! She was born onto the net, when she started slandered Angelina the FIRST time back in Dec/Jan.

4)As LATE, as 2 weeks ago, She HAD *ONLY* a ONE PAGE non active website, created in late FALL of 2006 (perhaps to coincide with the *FIRST* PAGE SIX HIT she, and THEY, knew would be running in the next couple weeks). It was laughable. It was amateurish. My 7 year old son could have posted it up. THERE were NO listings of AGENCIES, no additional info on adoption, no links on adoption, no credentials, no additional interviews. NOTHING. It was ONE *INACTIVE* PAGE. On it, there was a pic of her looking like a damned Russian spy, complete with fur muff on her head and scarf wrapped around the lower part of her face, only her eyes were visible (VERY SPOOKY & BIZARRE - who in the hell would put that kind of pic on a website?? Not exactly professional and/or warm & fuzzy either...just mysterious as all hell), There were pics of her and a kid, and
4 bullet points - a 'mission statement.' That was IT, a one page non active, NON-INFORMATIVE site.

5)HOWEVER, *after* people everywhere had CLOCKED her and PAGE SIX for the Angelina 'HIT' and were calling her 10 kinds of FAKE. She SUDDENLY CHANGES her website!! It goes from 1 PAGE to 4, in a nanosecond when she's EXPOSED!! They very obviously started feeling the heat and were being ridiculed - and they TRIED to 'professionlize' it and make it look more legit. I say 'tried.' To NO AVAIL. It was still a horribly bad site, but nonetheless - the fact that she and whoever, were OBVIOUSLY trying to make her look more legit, I found hilarious. They added a 'TEAM page' (which was just a page with the first names of 'friends' - it LITERALLY read, Lisa, Sue, blah, and blah). She added a 'BLOG' page (but oh yeah, it wasn't a message board you could post messages to, it was just a page she wrote things on. HAHA.) - she soon turned THAT into a 'News/Info' page. If enough people ask, I'll happily post her old ORIGINAL 1-page crap website that was recently ditched when she was exposed AS THE FRAUD she is.

6)What was MOST telling, one of her bullet points on her one page website, was immediately changed to reflect what she had commented on in slandering Angelina. She REMOVED a bullet point that voiced 'concerns about removing children from war torn areas and giving them stability' and REPLACED IT WITH a bullet point that discussed what she TRIED to slur Angelina with, i.e., 'singles living with partners and NOT OBEYING the adoption laws.' That's right, AFTER SHE & PAGE SIX were BUSTED all OVER THE WEB, OVERNIGHT her 'mission' changed - ahahahaha....

....yeah Tatiana, just FORGET about the orphans in war-torned unstable areas, the orphans in danger of being adopted by beautiful movie stars MUST be protected!

Anyway, kudos to all. It's poetic justice that the TRUTH and FACTS won out, and these slanderers are now being exposed and getting raked over the coals.

And why should a celeb just walk in, grab a kid, take off with it in minutes, change it's name(cruelest of all) and no one bats an eye? Especially someone who would never be allowed to adopt in America with her past.

Some of you people are just plain idiots. The name Pax was given at that orphanage is the equivalant of John Doe Smith.

Awww....poor Tatiana Beams, hurtful things were said about her on blogs...
It is amazing that those that can dish out the dirt cannot take it. You made yourself a spokesperson for adoptive parents, slamming Angelina not once but twice on the tabloidish page six who actually called the orphans you supposedly care about urchins, and you were not perturbed by that, you care more about what is going on with Angelina's adoption.

It went so well for you the first time that you could not have forseen the firestorm that will engulf you the second time around. Did your media laision person, Lisa write the above response to you since she was the one that responded to the email I sent to you.
Itt does not feel good to have your motives questioned and negative things written about you, does it? You probably bought into the media and tabloid lies that women cannot relate to Ms Jolie, I guess you are finding out what a big lie that is. Angelina has the most diverse, savvy, educated, intelligent fan base around the world, their research capabilities is better than what the is capable of but unwilling to do. So they did their research on you and called you out for the FRAUD that you are. A lot of her fans are sick and tired of the lies, the villification and the misinformation.
As you said that you and your circle of inept friends are waiting for the outcome of this adoption, we are also waiting for your next attack or raather your next attempt at slandering.
Like Ms Gonzalez of AFTH heart said, this adoption process started last summer, and Ms Jolie accepted her first and only referral- meaning she crossed her t's and dotted her i's because she is probably away that there are vultures like you waiting to get your 15minutes of fame by pouncing on her.

You are a fake Ms Beam and you have been exposed for the fraud that you are. You are no expert and frankly your 15 minutes of notoriety acquired on the back of Ms Jolie is over.
Next time do a little bit of research, it will help you not to look so stupid and then have to go from blog to blog trying to defend the indefensible.

One more thing, on several occassions, I have heard Ms Jolie say that her children have given her more than she could ever give them, that does not sound like a woman who thinks she is a HERO. Channel your obssession with Ms Jolie into something positive that way you are not eaten up by jealousy.

http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/about128003.html

I'm singing as I write this.
Ange's adoptions are shady. Others have been sayn' it not just this lady.
Go get a life you little minded girls of fat.
Brad will leave her, you take that.

AND P.S. Brad HAS not adopted the other two! HAHAHA! Guardian does not=adoptive father. So let's move on the topic you are all avoiding. This woman is you trying destract your warped little minds from reality! HA

Oh Dear. The theloonsrFATnstupid. Heh

Oh I mean I love the smack according to Jolie. That meand Heroin. Addicts past and present cannot adopt. Fantasy folks harassing people that are not saying much that's not true and a bit boring. Heroin is the name of the game.

http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/about127954.html

scoobie doobie doo and da da da

JJ fesses up da da da da da

http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/about127252.html

craaaazzzzy borderline jolie. oh yes what will you do when your med run out.

here's a bit on her fast track adoption. You know, they love the poppie in Nam.

http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/about127175.html

For those of you here to read about the woman above. Forget about it. This is all you need. It always includes many links of proof about the Jolie=media Ho.

http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/forum-40.html

Linking to FF doesn't do your fat heffers any good. As that site is full of hysterical people that can't get over the fact that Brad left Jennifer Aniston for a life.

And Brad has adopted the kids. What part of all adoptions are private don't you understand? You will never see any papers regarding any adoption because they're all private.

Don't let facts get in your way. You never do.

Go live in your fantasy land where Jennifer Aniston is the most popular actress in the whole world.

We'll live in the world where people go, Jennifer Aniston, who?

oooohhh got in yer craw. But JJ admitted that the kiddies have not been adopted only guardianship granted. there is a difference my angry little luv.

WTF is JJ?

Bonehead.

That's a straw that you keep grasping onto.

Guess, what? He's never going back to Jennifer Aniston, even though the egg has hatched and you've told him, it's time to come home.

He wouldn't recongnize Jennifer Aniston if he passed her on the street. And it's not because of all the work she's had done to her Mr. Ed face.

It's because he's forgotten that she even exists.

Oh are you JJ? Well isnt' he your Jesus? Here you go.
http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/about127252.html

Just Jared? A blogger? ROTFLMAO!

You're straws are getting rather spindly aren't they?

Oh, crap. That was funny.

Oh your just mad becuz FF has exposed your crazy little hate rants. bawahahahaha

BPD, Heroin, Cutting, it's all there. The facts are there. The links provided. Go for it.

This just in:

http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/about127988.html

http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/about127843.html

Brad had time to bike but not to adopt. hmm?

You guys think you have the facts. You are freaks. Brad has not adopted these kids. FACT

Adoption is the permanent legal assumption of all parental rights and responsibilities for a child. Adoptive parents have the same legal rights and responsibilities as parents whose children are born to them.

A guardian is someone appointed by the court to care for a child until he or she is 18. If you become a guardian, the court grants you the right to make most decisions regarding the child.

A guardian is not a child's legal parent and may be subject to ongoing supervision of the court. Guardianship does not give all the legal rights and responsibilities of a parent to the guardian the way adoption does to an adoptive parent. The court can make a decision about guardianship whether or not the parent agrees.

Ooh, FF is so good on their investigative work.

It's not like Angelina is the one that spoke OPENLY about all of that.

ROTFLMAO! I'm not mad. I'm tickled to death that Angelina is open and honest.

Unlike, Jennifer Aniston. Who has to manufacture a relationship with someone and even Vaughn found a faux relationship with her too hard.

Yep, he was riding his bike around L.A. And guess what, he'll do it again.

Right ON! Here's the link on that one.

http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/about127923.html

Who said Brad only has guardianship of Maddox and Zahara?

Brad legally adopted those children. You will never have access to that information because it's sealed

who cares about aniston. we're obsessed with the heroin bpd freak. aniston is boring. the she-witch is a train wreck we can't help but look at.

You guys keep holding onto the straw that Brad has not adopted the kids.

It does seem to help soothe your wounded egos and gives you hope that he's going to leave.

All of your predictions have not happened yet. But, you get on with your bad selves.

It must hurt, each time one of your predictions come back and smack you upside the head when it doesn't come true.

Unless, you like pain, otherwise, keep doing it. Oh, and rachet them up would you? Please.

Just in case you were wondering. The she-witch=Jolie.

I'm glad to hear that you've admitted to being obsessed with Angelina.

I know, she's not boring like Jennifer Aniston. That's for sure.

Go Angelina!

But the question is what will YOU do if/when they break up? What will your life mean then? How will you go on? Pleaes do tell.

Oh wait this is awesome. Maddox's mother is alive!! Now about that illegal Cambodian adoption. Tha't always a fun one for the loons to deny.

http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/board/about127280.html

Pitt adopted those children. His own attorney after the name change was granted appeared before reporters and gave a brief statement. It was all over the news and the net.

Part of that statement was that Pitt had applied for adoption of Zahara and Maddox and the name change was part of that process. The End. Pitt's own spokesperson said in Dec 2005 he was in the process of adoption. If he hadn't adopted those kids you seriously think people wouldn't be all over that like a dog with a bone?

Grow up people.

p.s. That Female First site is holed up with mental patients.

The judge never would of granted the name change if Pitt was just their guardian. They granted the name change because he was at the final stage of adopting the children.

nup he didn't adopt them says in every article. legal guardian. look it up er should I say GOOGLE IT!bawhahahahaha

anyone can change their name you dope. go to legal zoom. look it up.

I'll be just fine if they break up. Thanks for your concern though.

I certainly won't be at Fat Fcuks, unlimited, pissing and moaning more than two years later waiting for them to get back together.

Get on with your bad self and investigate all of her adoptions until your blue in the face. Blue is your color by the way. As is green.

Get on with your bad self.

Go Angelina!

holed up with mental patients? yes, and Ange is here keeping us company. but that crazy girl spits her meds out everytime.

No, sorry, Angelina is in Vietnam.

They do have meds for hallucinations. Oh, that's right, you spit them out.

Go Angelina!

Any adult can change their name but not a minor. A sitting Judge in a United States Court would not grant a name change for guardianship. What would be the point? You're next door neighbor could be your guardian, you wouldn't change your name to theirs. The name change was granted as part of the adoption procedure.

Every publiciation using Google? Google links U.K. tabloid articles. Sorry, I don't exactly consider them the "Word" LMAO

ummm. just and fyi if a minor's mother wants her child's name change then the Judge WILL CHANGE the name. This was just vampira's way of capturing her prey. Did you ever see the exact same pics of Jolie with Colin? He escaped.

sigh. here you go.

http://www.namechangelaw.com/states/ca/california.htm

Do you know why they had to list for 6 weeks in the paper the intent to change Zahara and Maddox's names? They had to legally do that as part of the adoption procedure. It's to notify a biological parent that their parental rights are about to be terminated. It gives them the opportunity to object to the adoption and keep their parental rights if they want. They'd have to go to court and fight it out but in the United States you have to do this before the adoption is final. The name change was the last step in making his adoption legal

ROTLMAO! Catching her prey.

You're taking notes, I see.

Better than Jennifer Aniston who can't keep her prey.

At least Angelina, catches hers.

Actually 110 you have no idea what you're talking about. Really uninformed on this one. Sorry. Name change and adoption completely seperate especially when dealing with an Internation Adoption. sorry.

When Brad adopted the kids, it wasn't an international adoption. The kids were U.S. citizens and it was handled by the state of CA.

Sorry.

Why don't you contact Lively & Singer, ESQ and ask for a statement regarding the status of his adoption and whether it happened or not? Every legit publication has stated he adopted them and is legally responsible for them. It would be easy enough I would think to confirm using legit sources and not tabloid articles.

Vicki Peterson, director of Wide Horizons the adoption agency they used for Zahara confirmed to USAToday and numerous other publications and radio that Pitt is the adoptive father who was there during the home visits. What's the issue here? He's the father of those children

Ms. Beams, let me refresh your memory. Here's your statement from the NYP article entitled, ANGELINA SKIRTS ADOPTION RULE and I quote:

"This is a clear contradiction of Vietnamese law, and such situations would not be allowed for other couples," said Tatiana Beams, an international adoption advocate. "Most co-habitating couples who try to adopt as a single parent are either turned away from agencies or face difficulties."

You stated with so much certainty and you even used the word "clear" to emphasize the fact that you are absolutely sure that Ms Jolie violated some VN adoption rules and by being certain that rules were violated you are implying that you are an expert in VN adoption laws and its jurisprudence. Are you now saying you were misquoted? Why didn't you asked NYP to issue an erratum? Is it because it was taken in toto from your open letter sent to NYP (as NYP claims)? In your succeeding posts to blogs, you are backtracking and saying you are not an expert and you don't have extensive knowledge about VN adoption laws. I have another word for you - MISREPRESENTATION.

In your statement below:

"Most co-habitating couples who try to adopt as a single parent are either turned away from agencies or face difficulties."

The law can be interpreted and enacted w/in its legal parameters and implementing rules and guidelines. The VN adoption laws regarding unmarried couples do not categorically constrain a legally single person to adopt even though she/he may be co-habiting with another person as long as they are heterosexual. You don't need to be fully conversant in legal parlance to understand that and if you are still confuse with it then you consult the experts. The director of VN's Int'l Adoptions reiterated the fact that Angelina Jolie is adopting as a single parent. You just said it yourself, there are adoption agencies that just don't deal with unmarried couples adopting as a matter of policy and not of the country. Your issue is not with Angelina Jolie nor with VN's adoption rules. Its with the adoption agencies.

The thing with you is that you make accusatory statements and then you cry foul when people calls on you because you can’t prove your accusations. Maybe it escaped your notice that the burden of proof is with the accusing party.

The FACT is, there is no issue as far as Angelina Jolie's VN adoption is concerned. The FACT is, a legitimate adoption agency handled her VN adoption and as far the VN int’l adoption laws and the corresponding agency is concerned, it was handled all above board by an agency which has the experience and expertise in this matters.

I won't question your passion for your advocacy in gay rights. But you can't let your passion blind you from imposing what you believe is right to a sovereign country like Vietnam. It's their country,its their LAW.

IMO, you're you're barking at the wrong tree. You're pushing Richard's and Harry's rights at the expense of Angelina Jolie.

Are these people trying to say that the attorney's representing Brad Pitt in his adoption proceding are lying to the public and the court?

Are you saying they're risking their license to practice law over his children's adoption? ROTFL. You FF people are seriously deranged.

A simple check with the state of California by any legit news publication would verify the adoption of those two kids

Malaya #115 -- thank you!

Yes, Hello, I believe they are.

Don't ask them to do actual research from sources that WOULD actually know.

If it's not in a U.K. tabloid, then they can't be bothered. It's so easy to use their U.K. search engine of Google.

Ya know, those people in the U.K. are so much more versed on what is going on with the people in the U.S., than the people in the U.S. I mean, they even bug homes of U.S. celebrities to get EXACT conversations? No, they don't make that crap up. Never.

U.K. tabloids rule. Forget that they're always being sued and losing for their stories. That is so not the point.

They tell it like it is with their 'truthiness.'

I don't care how much Angie deep throats Pitt, he would never announce to the world he was in the process of adopting those kids if he wasn't. It's too easy to verify if it wasn't true. These people are the most followed, gossipied and written about celebrity couple out there. It's ludicris to say he was lying.

UK= Sun story "Zahara's mother found"

LMAO. It's laughable

And where is Brad now? Where? Where are HIS comments about the child? How about a phone call or a mention of him calling to speak with his? new child. Where? Huh. Has his publicist said anything or just this lover er I mean Trevor guy talking? Just curious.

This is obviously a loon site designed by the loons for the loons. This is where JJ buys his photos you dumbasses.

Oh yeah, these are JJ people. Proof is in the quotes. Probably the only place Ciniqua is allowed these days. The saddest thing is that they are all angry colombinesque teens or very sad and lonely middle-aged women bent on attacking people.

Hello, you better watch out. They're desperately googling right now.

They're going to come back with their bibles of truth from the UK Sun or Daily Mirror.

Those bible thumpers.

Trevor Neilson works for both Pitt and Jolie just like he worked for both Bill and Melinda Gates. To smear his reputation because of your own irrational thinking shows your own lack of rational thought processes and immaturity.

Why would they tell the media about a phone call? You're digging for bones where there isn't any.

I'm sure Brad and Angelina appreciate your concern for their relationship, their children and their well being but when they want YOU to know something you will. Don't worry yourself with their well being.

By Karen Thomas, USA TODAY

Maddox is growing to be among the most popular baby names for boys.

Is Pax next?

Angelina Jolie's adoption of a Vietnamese boy she named Pax Thien Jolie was finalized Thursday, and the actress is due to bring him to the USA next week. Jolie is in the country with her Cambodian-born son Maddox, 5, while the multicultural family patriarch, Brad Pitt, stays in the USA with daughters Zahara, 2, and Shiloh, 10 months.

PAX MAKES IT SIX: Jolie adopts Vietnamese boy

Pitt is under contract to be filming in Los Angeles, and he is expected to formally adopt Pax. Af for Jolie, she has cleared her work schedule in order to focus on the new addition to the family.

"I will stay at home to help Pax adjust to his new life," Jolie told Vietnam'sHo Chi Minh City Law newspaper on Friday. "I have four children and caring for them is the most important thing for me at the moment. I'm very proud and happy to be their mother."

Nguyen Van Trung, the director of the orphanage, reports that Pax got an early start to his big day. "This morning, he woke up at 6, just like all the children. He put on new clothes, and he was very excited."

But the trip wasn't free of turmoil. Trevor Neilson, Jolie's international affairs adviser, said Jolie complained of paparazzi swarming their van. Pax has been described by Vietnamese adoption officials as a little bit shy.

"Photographs and press coverage will make him upset," Jolie told the Ho Chi Minh City Law . "I'm very worried about that. I would like to say I'm sorry for bringing this into Pax's life."

Jolie's new addition opens up another option for expecting parents looking for a name. Today's young parents are "much more likely to name their children after a celebrity's child, and not after a celebrity," says Linda Rosenkrantz, co-author of The Baby Name Bible. "Just a couple of generations ago, there was no interest in knowing the names of stars' children or following celebrity pregnancies."

Rosenkrantz says it looks as if Jolie and Pitt have some clear patterns forming in the names they choose for their children.

Jolie has said that the couple would like to balance the races their family with two Asian children and two African children. "They seem to be going in an all-embracing way in terms of gender, meaning and balance," she says. The couple have chosen several unisex names for their children, and they have also moved toward recognizing their children's heritage or heroes with middle names.

A look at the meanings behind the names in the Jolie-Pitt clan:

•Pax Thien, 3: The Vietnamese boy's name was changed Thursday from Pham Quang Sang, and his new name means "peaceful sky" in two languages. Pax means "peace" in Latin; Thien is Vietnamese for "sky." Rosenkrantz says Pax is a rarely used moniker, though its Spanish version (Paz) is much more common. The boy was born in November 2003 and was abandoned as an infant.

•Maddox Chivan, 5: Jolie was married to Billy Bob Thornton in 2002 when she adopted her first child, a Cambodian-born son named Rath Vibol. Maddox is a Celtic or Welsh name meaning "beneficent," but Chivan has no origin, says Rosenkrantz. "It's a name that certainly has not been used in the last century." Pitt formally adopted Mad (that's what they call him) in 2006.

•Zahara Marley, 2: Born Tena Adam, Zahara means "flower" in Swahili and "to shine" in Hebrew. Marley comes from reggae singer Bob Marley, a name Rosenkrantz says is popular for both boys and girls. Zahara was adopted in Ethiopia in 2005 after she was orphaned by AIDS, and the couple refer to her as "Z." Pitt was with Jolie when she signed the adoption papers, and he formally adopted Zahara last year.

•Shiloh Nouvel, 10 months: Jolie gave birth to the couple's youngest daughter in the African country of Namibia. Of Hebrew origin, Shiloh means "peaceful one," and Rosenkrantz says it is a name that's catching on for both sexes. The middle name is a homage to Jean Nouvel, a famous French architect who is among Pitt's favorites.
Posted 3d ago

"We are confirming that Brad Pitt is in the process of becoming the adoptive father of both children," said Pitt's publicist Cindy Guagenti.

Saturday, 3 December 2005, 10:55 GMT

Source:BBC News

Adoption News - Brad Pitt Starting Legal Proceedings to Adopt Jolie's Children

According to news reports, Friday, December 2, Brad Pitt filed legal documents in Los Angeles to become the adoptive father of Angelina Jolie's two children, Maddox and Zahara. According to recent news coverage this will also mean a name change for the children. Their last names will be Jolie-Pitt.

Source:CNN Report - Brad Pitt to adopt Angelina's children

Monday December 5, 2005

yeah, 125 but what about pax? For anyone just stepping in, these are all JJ people. If you don't know what that means let me tell you.They are crazy deluded Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt hate-filled fans.they will attack anyone or anything like rabid beasts for speaking out about Jolie-Pitt in anyway. they're really sick. your advice is to runaway while you can. they give any dictator a run for his money. if thou speak ill, we shall kill is their motto. scary. bye freaks. i think all the sane people are leaving now.

You dumb f*ckers. Know the law before you go spouting off on it. That is the Sesame Street Lesson of the day. First, a legal guardian is a different beast altogether. You can be a natural birth parent of a child and still not be the child's guardian (know there are many different types of guardianships). Next these dumb FFs are pointing to her blood carrying as if it's nothing we don't already know. Old news. Over done. Just like Brad and the Chin. Get Over It.

I think I know what has these nutjobs from Female First's panties in a knot. One of their Gospel's the UK Daily Mirror said Brad and Angelina are getting married Easter in the Dominican Republic.

Mwaaahaaaa haaaa

Comment by JJloons — March 18, 2007 @ 10:39 am
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You're just scared beacuse people from JJ actually argue with facts.

I know. The FFer's think that they've uncovered dark secrets.

Who knew that they've been digging for the past 10 years and uncovered all of this.

And Angelina found out that they were onto her and decided to own all of that stuff like it was her own and is not ashamed of any of it.

Who knew? That is was the FFer's that have been yipping at her heels for all of the years, and they're the ones that made her be open and honest in her interviews.

I mean, all of this time, I just thought it was Angelina being Angelina. And it was the FFer's all along.

# 131. hee.

Here is a collection of opinions about Tatiana Beams from justjared site.

poster: stranger March 6th, 2007

And, if one of her main concerns is to get more couples, unmarried and gay, to adopt, why not support and wait until the Jolie Pitt’s goes through , and use is as a precedent instead of pointing it out as something illegal or irregular?

Her actions seem to show that she does not wish for this adoption to take place. It makes no sense to me.

^^^^^

poster: dragonfly

My sentiments exactly! If that is her true purpose, then she would be supporting high-profile adoptions such as the Jolie-Pitts’, not trying to throw stumbling blocks in their path.

Support how successful their case is and use it to help others. Perhaps even trying to partner with the agencies and government officials to change the law? NO, she supports so vehemently a law she supposedly doesn’t believe in.

Why isn’t she squawking about trying to have the law changed and holding the J-P’s up as an example instead of blabbing to some gossip rag like Page Six?

A true international adoption advocate would be speaking through other more reputable venues, and would be involved in other organizations.

Because this isn’t about supporting successful cases of international adoption, this is about BASHING Angelina.

I am sure Brad and Angie’s lawyers are indeed aware of all this and more and do not need us to do their work for them, but it sure is nice to know that the media is being sent a message the the fans are not to be under-estimated. The media seems to think we are all easily duped by smokescreens and rhetorical verbage, that they can feed us any ol’ rotten tomato and we will eat it up.

Time after time here at Justjared's site, that notion is proven wrong, because you guys (the fans at JJ) are proof that there are still people in the world who can think for themselves and do their own research. Way to go, ya’ll!

Why are there so many haters (I believe Aniston's fans) are coming here and talking about adoption when Jen does NOT even feel comfortable holding a child.

Look how (see pic above) Tatitia Beams is channeling Angelina. She has sold her pics to Splash (probably) !!!!!

I think this woman is desperate for publicity, and she knows the only way to achieve her status as an International Adoption advocate is to pick on Angelina

Clearly she is using Angelina for publicity and i would go further that she is probably obsessed with her. She also adopted and is tryign to look like Jolie.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/141769/angelina_jolie_facing_legal_woes_over.html

Angelina Jolie Facing Legal Woes Over Cambodian Exploitations

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The celebrity hype reverse sincerity when it comes to humanitarianism and charity involvement is called in to question often. When there is the suspicion of hype over sincerity a real travesty is taking place. One such travesty has taken place in Cambodia.

The Cambodian Vision in Development - CVD is a charity that trusted the namesake of a celebrity and found they were badly let down. The celebrity at the heart of this scandal is Angelina Jolie.

The organization responsible for bring development and the bettering the region once had the support and funding of the attached celebrity name Angelina Jolie to their project. Angelina Jolie is often quoted as saying she gives all her money away for charities.

Apparently, she also reneges all charity commitments and negated on legal agreements she makes with charities with no warning or legal grounds.

CVD had not only the support of Angelina Jolie initially, but others from outside sources that believed in and funded the charity for its great work. Since the matter of her not fufilling financial obligation and commitments to the charity last year, as of November 2006 the matter saw her allegedly resorting to unsavory tactics to justify her change of heart.

This has left CVD with little choice then to seek justice in a court of law. According to Sarath, Director of Cambodian Vision in Development, she has used their organization for personal gain not humanitarian interests of his or his charities endeavourers.

He says, "We believed that AJ (Angelina Jolie) just use our charity (CVD) to put herself up to be seen as she help the poor, third world country like Cambodia." " We are exploited."

He believes she has negated funding for the charity in excess of one million dollars. Not only has she reneged these funds herself, but she is also believed to have also halted funding from other agreed sources to CVD. Instead she has redirected their payments directly to her own private organization.

Sarath confirmed, "She turns all those assistance (Fix-Assets, buildings, project equipment) which legally donated to CVD org, now they are all under AJ's name for private benefit.."

Angelina Jolie's actions have lead to the belief that she is a "dishonest humanitarian". According to Sarath,. Jolie continues to make false 1 million dollar claims. "When she visited Pailin lately, she made another false promise for $ 1.5 million, again to help continue supporting the existing the conservation effort, but there is nothing happening, so far. The conservation??? There is no conservation activities after she broke the agreement with CVD."

Already very suspicious of her motivations, the Director of CVD believes " She just promise to make again support from the government so that they could turn CVD down...!" "AJ (Angelina Jolie) has been exploiting our organization, " he adds.

As Mounh Sarath and CVD prepare for the legal lawsuit in hopes of immediate resolution and fairness to the organization and charity, they hope for much more than that. The restitution of their good name is imperative.

They also seek to clear themselves of all slander and maliciously intended falsehoods made by Ms. Jolie publicly in order that they may continue their good work with every confidence in their abilities to be recognized for their future endeavors.

Jolie's adoption nightmare

By Mark Baker
Asia Editor
Phnom Penh
January 9, 2004

An American agent who arranged a controversial Cambodian adoption for actress Angelina Jolie is reportedly planning to surrender to US authorities to face charges of visa fraud and money laundering.

Lauryn Galindo, a former Hawaiian hula dancer, has been indicted by a US federal court over allegations that she arranged adoptions of children who were not orphans, and paid poor Cambodian women to give up their babies for American couples.

The case has renewed doubts about the legitimacy of the adoption two years ago of Tomb Raider star Jolie's son Maddox from an orphanage in the provincial Cambodian town of Battambang.

Soon after the boy was delivered by Galindo to a movie set in Africa, where Jolie was filming, Cambodian child welfare workers told The Age they believed Maddox had been sold by his poverty-stricken mother for $US100 ($A130).

"I'm sure that this child was not a real orphan and was not abandoned," said Dr Kek Galibru, head of the respected human rights agency Licadho. The group's report on corruption in the adoption industry triggered a US moratorium on Cambodian adoptions and a tightening of procedures by several Western embassies.

The Honolulu Advertiser reported that Galindo, 52, would surrender this week to authorities in Seattle to face charges involving some of the hundreds of other Cambodian adoptions she has arranged for American couples.

The paper said Galindo's sister, Lynn Devin, who runs Seattle International Adoptions, is due to be sentenced by a federal court in Seattle in March, after pleading guilty last month to falsifying documents to obtain visas for Cambodian children purported to be orphans.

Galindo was named as a co-conspirator in the November indictment.

A California media consultant engaged by Galindo said she was innocent and was co-operating with Federal Bureau of Investigation officers. The FBI's Operation Broken Hearts is tracking widespread corruption in Cambodian adoption circles.

British newspapers reported last month that Jolie had hired a team of lawyers to fight any attempt by US authorities to return Maddox to Cambodia.

They quoted the actress as saying she had gone to "great lengths" to ensure the boy did not have a living birth-mother in Cambodia when she and her former husband, actor Billy Bob Thornton, adopted him two years ago.

"I would never rob a mother of her child. I can only imagine how dreadful that would feel," said Jolie, who is a "goodwill ambassador" for the United Nations refugee agency.

"Maddox is my baby, he is by my side all the time, and I think I can give him so much. I can no more imagine living without him than not breathing," she said.

The US indictment charges Galindo and Devin with falsifying documents "to expedite the adoption process" and "enhance their profits" between 1997 and 1999.

In one case, according to the document, Galindo in January 1998 faxed her sister the medical records of a child to be adopted with a handwritten note: "Father dead - mother very poor."

Four months later, she allegedly told the adoptive parents to give the birth mother $US100 and to donate $US3500 to the orphanage that had been holding the child. In an interview with Cambodia Daily in early 2002, Galindo, who kept a luxury apartment in Phnom Penh, a chauffeur-driven Mercedes and several bodyguards, said: "When people ask me what I do, I don't say adoptions, I say humanitarian work. I didn't come here to steal children. I came here to do what I could to help."

She conceded that more than half of the average $US9000 fee she charged American couples for adoption processing was given to Cambodian officials.

"It's OK to give tips . . . I'm really happy to share the wealth," she said.

This story was found at: http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/01/08/1073437411857

LMAO! You do realize that her agency was shut down and the woman running it is now serving a prison sentence, right?

No.

Oh and that Maddox's adoption was proved to be one of the only adoptions that was handled legally.

Oh, wait, that didn't come from the UK Sun or The Daily Mirror.

The Sun just likes to pay young women to pretend to be mothers of orphaned kis.

Key BPD-Related Behavioral and Cognitive Patterns

One law for me, another for everyone else'

This kind of blind universal self-exception is fundamental to the cognitive distortions that underlie all personality disorders. It is the entrenched rigidity of this belief in the face of all rational counter-argument -- and many folks with BPD are above-average in intelligence -- that defines the very pathology of BPD.

Common variations include "I'm allowed to have affairs but my partner is not", "I'm not an addict but others using these same drugs/substances are", or "I am a devout Christian [or other religious or political adherent] and nothing I do contradicts this."

Foreshortening of Emotional Horizons

Observers usually note that a person with BPD will retain an impressionistic emotional memory of others based solely on the most recent interaction with that person. Their cognition and memory being impaired by a noradrenalin-maintained hypervigilance, folks with BPD are commonly unable to take a longer-term perspective on life events. Certainly this factor plays into the impulsive behaviors associated with this disorder -- stories are legion of Borderlines 'burning their bridges' in many contexts.

Linked to this is the distorted cognitive principle that "Feelings Create Facts", next:

"Feelings Create Facts"

The deeply entrenched belief that the subjective, fleeting feelings of the moment determine all reality forever ... or at least until the next impression sets in.

For complex reasons, Borderline pathology includes a relatively fast-and-loose relationship to historical fact when the individual is emotionally aroused in some way. If a Borderline feels abused, in their mind, abuse must have factually happened. For obvious reasons, this is an extremely confusing world-view for others to comprehend; all the more so, given the obvious intellectual clarity of the individual in other contexts.

For more on this, see: Memory and BPD

"Attention is a Zero-Sum Game"

Many Borderlines are incapable of perceiving the limitless quality of emotional affection or attention in general. If someone else receives praise or notice, Borderlines fear that there will be less to go around for them. The recognition received by anyone else, the reasoning goes, has the effect of personally dimishing the Borderline, and they immediately take a hostile, defensive stance against this perceived new 'enemy.'

This apparent jealousy is not a rational cognitive process, and many non-Borderlines have remarked on the highly age-inappropriate behavior of Borderlines in contexts such as children's birthday parties, others' weddings, spouse's job promotions or similar celebratory events that focus on others. (Imagine, for example, your consternation while attending your law firm's celebration of your attaining full partnership after ten years, to be called into the bathroom by your seething middle-aged spouse sobbing that "you're getting all the attention -- and you'll be sorry!" -- a scenario recently related to me by a site visitor).

In many cases, this jealousy is expressed via seemingly interminable conversations (often in the dead of night) revolving endlessly around one's supposed infideities or "betrayals" as a partner.

In some cases, a Borderline's pathological jealousy of a spouse or partner can express itself in violence, suicide or even homicide; if you find yourself in this situation, please notify the appropriate authorities, as this is an intolerable and potentially very dangerous irrationality to live with. Folks freshly separated from a violent Borderline relationship must take extra care to make use of all legal venues that ensure their own self-protection. Many (possibly preventable) tragedies have resulted from this "If I can't have you, nobody can!" mind-set.

This extreme BPD egocentrism, based as it is on a foundation of anxiety and crippling self-loathing, can lead to innumerable conflicts in life as the Borderline overpersonalizes each interaction in this way -- and struggles resentfully to hang on to what is tragically felt to be a limited quantity of love & attention in the world.

Situational Competency

The intense fear of abandonment, triggered by dysfunctional attachment perceptions, usually applies only to those with whom the Borderline is emotionally intimate, therefore the 'outside world' often sees no irrational behaviors. Someone with BPD who is relatively high-functioning may exhibit little impairment on the job or in other non-familial contexts.

This trait makes it particularly difficult for spouses and family locked in a cycle of domestic abuse to attain external validation of their experiences.

Lack of Object Constancy

"Object Constancy" is a term used in a field of psychology known as Object Relations theory. It denotes the learned ability of a young child to retain a constant internal image of a thing in mind, despite its shifting outward appearance (for instance, the accurate size of a toy whether viewed from close up or from afar. A classic child psychology experiment in this area is the demonstration of two glasses of different sizes containing the same amount of liquid -- can the child perceive that the amount of fluid remains constant when its physical shape changes?).

Folks with BPD have been theorized to possess an unstable object constancy in regards to the loved ones in their lives: when that person is not physically present, someone with BPD slowly loses an emotionally consistent 'sense' of that person's existence. Many non-Borderlines have noted the curious (and often irritating, sometimes even abusive) tendency of Borderlines to telephone excessively, to inappropriately "check up" on their loved one's behaviors outside the home, to keep small physical mementos or photographs of the loved one with them at all times, or to insist that they physically see the partner in person at frequent intervals.

As one person with BPD put it, "It's as though the outlines of the absent person, no matter how well I know them, begin to fade and lose their clarity, leaving room for all sorts of doubts and fears of my own to begin creeping in."

Projection, Splitting, Displacement, Magical Thinking, Triangulation

Read this for a description of some common ego defense mechanisms used by those with BPD.

Gaslighting

After the 1944 film of the same name (Gaslight), in which Ingrid Bergman plays a Victorian newlywed who, through a devious series of manipulations (e.g., slowly dimming the gaslights) by her mentally ill husband, is slowly persuaded that she and not he is the unbalanced spouse.

Many folks with BPD or BPD traits are extremely invested in denying the level of their dysfunction -- personality disorders are "ego-syntonic", or viewed by the individual as a natural and necessary way to think and be. Borderlines may wage a permanent war with all their loved ones as to "who is really the sick one here?"

Blatant denial of events or conversations that have occurred, endless circular conversations on who-did-what-when, and actually changing or removing physical evidence of dysfunctional behaviors are all gaslighting techniques.

It's a commonplace in the psychiatric community that the spouse or partner of someone with BPD is usually the first to present clinically, worried about "going mad" themself.

Interpersonal Manipulation

Quite a bit has been written on the topic of manipulative behavior and BPD. Indeed, people with the disorder have traditionally been stigmatized in the mental health community for precisely this reason: "master manipulators", "emotional vampires" or "users" are terms that unfortunately still get lots of play in clinics and hospitals around the country.

Certainly most of the dysfunctional behaviors expressed by those with the disorder are perceived by others as blatant attempts to sway others into fulfilling their immediate wishes. Borderlines are experts at 'sideways fulfilment' of their needs. Loved ones and others are often drawn into highly complicated interpersonal games whose goals are to provide the Borderline with things the Borderline is seemingly unable (or perceives her/himself as unable) to provide for her/himself -- or to fulfill a misplaced need for "safety."

Whether or not this is a conscious process is up for debate (albeit a debate with enormous legal ramifications); what is certain is that someone with Borderline Personality Disorder clearly lacks the social/emotional skills to fulfill these needs in healthier ways.

Link: http://www.bpdresources.com/diagnostic.html#related

The linked website contains the diagnostic criteria for BPD, which Jolie does satisfy.

In answer to your question about children of mothers (specifically mothers) with BPD acquiring BPD or other Personality Disorders or Mood Disorders themselves, it is the exceptional case when the child does not develop any disorders -- the rule is that the child is doomed.

Without knowing for sure whether Jolie has been diagnosed, based on what is publicly known about her, there is little if any doubt that she has BPD. A signature BPD symptom is "cutting" (self-mutilation) during teenage years -- which Jolie admittedly did. Not every cutter has BPD, and not every BP was a cutter, but if a teenage girl (75% of BPs are female) is a cutter, there is a very good chance she will have BPD. In Jolie's case, other symptoms are publicly known albeit not as symptoms.

US interview with Angelina Jolie and Billy Bob Thornton (she's a freak people. let it go)

The couple of the moment, Angelina Jolie and Billy Bob Thorton, tell all.
"Whoa, I don't know what's happening. I might pass out," says Billy Bob Thorton upon peeking at the contents of an envelope. Inside are black-and-white publicity portraits autographed by Steve Burn, the star of Nickelodeon's popular children's television series Blue's Clues, and going through them leaves Thorton breathless. They have a similarly dramatic effect on his wife, Angelina Jolie, who appears to develop a nervous tremor from teh excitement as she shuffles through the pack, finally exclaiming "Oh, my God!"
"We're big fans of Steve's," Thorton tries to explain.
"We need to go on Blue's Clues," says Jolie.
Mind you, these are two Oscar winners seated at a table poolside at the posh Sunset Marquis Hotel, and they're losing it over teh star of a kids' TV show. But that's just the beginning of an afternoon with the hands-down most passionate married couple in Hollywood. If you like your beer cold, your steaks raw, and you Saturday nights tinged with the smell of Gasoline, settle in: These are your kind of folk.
In this freewheeling US Weekly-exclusive conversation. Thorton and Jolie (the star of the hit movie Gone in 60 Seconds) open the door to secrets of their fiery romance. But first, a brief history (brief because, as you'll hear them say, "Time means nothing to us, except the time we spend together").
In 1977, Thorton, then 21 drove to Los Angeles from his Arkansas home with a buddy to make it in show busines. Four marriages. three kids, and one heart seizure later, he is a fiercely talented presence who won the 1996 Best Adapted Screenplay Academy Award for the intense drama Sling Blade (which he also starred and directed). Thorton, 44, recently finished directing Matt Damon in what people are saying is a masterful adaptation of the bestselling novel All The Pretty Horses.
Jolie, 25, was a toddler when her dad, Oscar winner Jon Voight, split from her mother, the stunning French actress Marcheline Bertrand, and nothing has been easy since. As Jolie emerged from her Best Supporting Actress Oscar role in 1999's Girl, Interrupted as the electrifying actress of her generation, her resume included one previos marriage, a reputation as a self mutilator, a fondness for knives, rumors of heroin abuse, emotional instability, 10 tattoos and speculation she might have slept with her brother.
Jolie and Thorton met in 1998 while playing husband and wife in the movie Pushing Tin. They got together ealier this year, though it wasn't public knowledge until the first week of april, when Jolie had Billy bob tattooed on her left arm. On May 5 they had a quickie marriage ceremony in Las Vegas. Some people see their relationship as a love connection, while others are braced for the train wreck.
In person, they are the perfect match. Hard on the outside, they have soft, chewy, fun, whacked-if not slightly scary centers. "He writes things and shares thoughs and we talk about things all the time," says Jolie. "It's beautiful."
Forget unconditional love. Thorton an dJolie have unbounded love, the kind of perpetually boiling body heat that inspires poets and pay-per-view programming. "We'd seen each other's work," he says. "So we made perfect sense to each other before we ever met," concludes Jolie, who is an intoxicating beauty in blue jeansand a T-shirt. Her black hair is down and loose. Contrary to rumors that she is waifish and bruised, she looks healthy. She laughs easily and often. Thorton, in brown corduroys and half buttoned yellow shirt that barely adheres to his railthin frame, has his own low-key charm, too, though the first impression is, as he puts it, of a "junkyard dog."
Oblivious to stares and whispers they provoke as they pick at lunch on this afternoon (she has a glass of merlot and Chinese chicken salad with dressing on the side; he has papaya and a beer), the touch, laugh at private jokes, share secrets, grunt, groan, and generally turn each other on at the slightest-even silliest provocation. "Did you see how she moved that wineglass?" Thorton asks suddenly. "To me, that's almost sex. No, it is sex."
Moment later, he mentions his Foosball table, causing guttural, animal like noise come from Jolie. "Sometimes I'll just hear him say a word and want to take him up to the room immediately," she says.
"She does this thing with her foot," Thorton says later. "You can't imagine."
Maybe that's for the best. Two days earlier they left little to the imagination while walking, or rather groping, their way down the red carpet at the premiere of Gone in 60 Seconds. Earlier today, they accompanied the woman who is teaching Jolie how to box for the physically challenging role of Lara Croft in the action film Tomb Raider to get her first tattoo. "We were there for support," says Thorton, who rolls up his pant leg to reveal the latest in his own collection of skin art-a colorful mushroom on his right calf with the name Angie inside it. "I've been wainting to do that," he says.
Like typical newlyweds. Thorton and Jolie just purchase a home in L.A., and today they are buzzing with decorating ideas, from installation of his foosball table to talk of a padded room-"for those moments in teh middle of the night when you want to kill each other because you're so inlove," explains Jolie. "We can go crazy." Their taste includes a Velcro Wall. "It's just because we want to be in those suits standing right together in our living room in the middle of the night," says Jolie. Adds Thorton, laughingly, "I can see where I might say, 'Honey, get me down,' and she'll go to bed. And that's what I love about her."
A few hours from now, Jolie is going back to London, where she's in production on Tomb Raider, and their impending separation finds them itching-at times it seems aching-to get back to their room. "It's sick how happy we are," says Jolie, "You know, I used to hate people like us."

Is it possible for you two to stop nibbling on each other for a few minutes?
Angelina: Probably not.

I'm surprised you're such fans of Blue's Clues.
Billy Bob: We're really into Steves, people named Steve.
Angelina: And the Crocodile Hunter guy. He's a Steve.

Yeah, Steve Irwin.
Billy Bob: We're so into him. We want to go hunting with him for a Komodo dragon. Or maybe that's too much. Maybe for Cobras.

I get the feeling we're jumping into this too quickly. Let me back up and ask the first question everybody wants to know: When did the two of you first get together?
Angelina: It feels like we've known each other forever, so that's a funny question.
Billy Bob: We met at the dawn of time, I think. In a kind of supernatural way.
Angelina: We've talked about it since, but we were very aware of each other in the way you know about somebody out there and somehow they're having an effect on you, and you don't understand why until you meet them.

And what about the official meeting?
Billy Bob: In Toronto, when we made Pushing Tin. The actual first time was in an elevator. [To Angelina] I should let you take over from here.
Angelina: He said hi, and I walked intot he wall. Then he got in a car to go try on some pants-look, I'm eating my cigarette as I say that-and I went around the corner and caught my breath. I didn't knwo what to do.

And then?
Angelina: We became friends in a really amazing way. I just wanted to be near him all the time. And I missed being around him when work was over.

Did you keep in contact afterward?
Angelina: We talked on the every once in a while. But there was nothing we could do. We couldn't entertain the idea of it becoming anything else because the situation wasn't available. I was actually forced to be in a room with him a lot because of different business functions, and it was so hard. I almost couldn't talk to him sometimes. I'd wonder why I felt so much for someone I hardly knew.
Billy Bob: In retrospect, you find out you knew everything. You think back and know oyu were desperate for someone you couldn't be with. You shut off a part of yourself because if you let yourself feel it, you won't be able to live with it.
Angelina: My life completely changed when I met him-just knowing there was someone like him alive. But without him, a part of me always felt empty.

So when were you finally able to be together?
Angelina: I was like there was nothing else before.
Billy Bob: There was a day when I knew that my life needed to change and I walked-no, I drove- to her and said, "Can you meet me in five minute? We can be together now," And we have been every since.
Angelina: We came to this hotel, actually.

What was it like?
Angelina: I felt like I came alive that night. And every day and every second since, it's been more intense and better and more beautiful. I look at him and nothing else matters. We just takled that night. We talked and looked at each other.

Can you express what it is you love about each other?
Billy Bob: Honestly, and it's like a big statement to make, she's truly the only person who I can actually say I love and respect everything about her.

Angelina: I feel the same way about him. We nearly kill each other.
Billy Bob: We do.
Angelina: You know when you love someone so much you can almost kill them? I nearly was killed last night, and it was the nicest thing anyone ever said to me.

What happened last night?
Billy Bob: I was looking at her sleep and I had to restrain myself from literally squeezing her to death. Sex for us is almost too much. It's so intense that sometimes we can look at each other and think, " You know what, we can't get into this right now or something's going to happen."

Wow!
Billy Bob: People say certain things to each other, "I love you." "You mean everything to me." Stuff like that. Everybody says them. Tehn one day you find the person who you are honestly put here to be with and you realize that now when you say those things, you really mean them.
Angelina: Until I met him, I had no idea how much you can love a someone.

So what was it like when you finally made love for the first time?
Angelina: It's shocking how much a human being is capable of feeling and how great it feels. It's shocking what two people can do to each other. I had no idea.
Billy Bob: There's actually a sixth sense to it.

Are you telling me that you see dead people?
Angelina: It's just not normal. The other day we were mentioning how I needed to get one of those heart monitors on me becaus eI'm convinced I'm going to have a heart attack. He kidded me the other day and I nearly fainted. I swear on my family's lives, I nearly fell over.

From what I know, the first time anyone knew you were together was when Angie got Billy Bob tattoed on her arm. Is there a story about getting that tattoo?
Angelina: It's actually the second time I've gotten his name. The other one is a place where nobody's ever seen.

OK, where is it?
Angelina: How do you say that?
Billy Bob: You can't print it?

[I have a feeling it's a word they frequently say on The View. Thorton says it's true.]

Angelina: I got that for me. It represents everything I bellieve in and who he is.

But about the tattoo on your arm?
Angelina: It was finally a day I felt I could get it. I'd wanted it forever. Finally we were together. There wasn't much thought put into it. But from getting tattooed to getting married, there never seems to be any question.
Billy Bob: Everything we do is pretty much a natural course of action.

Before I ask about the wedding, I have to ask Billy Bob one vital question: What about the relationship you were in with Laura Dern?
Billy Bob: God bless her. I hope she's so happy. I want her to be happy. But it was over. That's all.

OK.
Billy Bob: I always wanted to say to people I had relationships with " You know what, why do you go to the movies and cry at that shit? Give it to me. Push me out the window. Kiss me until I bleed." And Angie does that to me. She does it. And I do it. When we read a poem or we see a movie, we're capable of it. That's the best way to describe this relationship. It's like, I will go through you. She will go through me. I'm terrified of flying. But I will fly anywhere int eh deepest, darkest jungle inm a plane with half a propeller for her. I know people are saying "Oh, she's the next one." Or "Oh, he's the next one." But they're wrong, and they'll be proven wrong.
Angelina: And not only are we capable of everything he said-it's beyond.

When did you decide to get married?
Billy Bob: Subconsciously, we decided a few years ago.
Angelina: Before we knew it, we were saying that we felt married. We didn't do it to feel committed. But it was something that would make me the happiest woman in the world, and I just wanted it. It was going to be a great day.

There was a story that before the wedding, you two drove to L.A. from Arkansas in a motor home, had a terrible fight and Angie checked into the psych ward at UCLA.

Billy Bob: There are certain things that are true and not true about that.
Angelina: If I lost him, you can bet that I'd go completely nuts. If something happened to him, yes, I'd need help.

What's the true part?
Billy Bob: To put it in simple terms, we wanted to get married and we couldn't at the time. We soberly wanted to make sure feelings didn't get hurt.
Angelina: We were becoming a family, and we had a family to think about; my family and his mother, his children, his ex-wife and everything. We wanted everybody's blessings.
Billy Bob: So we did wait, and it kind of made us both spin out a little. I was in Nashville, she was back in L.A., and looming above us was the fact she had to leave for London soon.
Angelina: When I couldn't be near him, I started to go nuts. Then I couldn't find him. I thought I'd lost him. And I'm human. I felt lost and got sad to a point where I wasn't thinking clearly. If I'd been able to find him, I would've been fine. But I didn't want to hurt myself or anyone else. So I went into the hospital to make sure my blood pressure was normal and they ended up saying "Mayeb you should take a rest for a few days." And that was it. After a day or two, we found each other, and then I got better.

Your actions say a lot.
Angelina: If anything they say I know how to take care of myself, because my life is very important to me now. And he takes care of me. He's made me feel safe and calm for the first time in my life, and I feel like somebody really does know how to make everything OK when I don't.
Billy Bob: We believe in each other, and it gives us both something we never had. We're sort of like junkyard dogs. People don't believe in people like us. But I believe in her.

And then you got married?
Billy Bob: I said, "You're back in L.A. and you're sick from it, and I'm here and I'm sick of it. I need to take care of you. I need to look you in the eye. I'll meet you in Vegas." That's how it went down. In plain and simple terms, we couldn't wait.
Angelina: Our famalies were behind us. Our parents were waiting to know when to get in teh car and meet us wherever. The night before we went to Vegas, my whole family was there to pack a bag with me and send me off. They were so happy.

It must have been a relief to say "I do."
Billy Bob:the wedding was perfect for us. It was cheesy and beautiful and profound and intense and lighthearted and humouras. I t was everything.
Angelina: It was special because it was just another day in our lives when we were going to say the things that we've always felt and always will feel.

I don't see a diamond ring.
Billy Bob: We were in a hotel bar. I said, "I'll be right back." I asked a woman if there was anyplace to buy a ring. She pointed me to a jewelry store in the hotel lobby. But all the rings looked like something Zsa Zsa Gabor would wear. I found a woman outside with a jewelry cart and picked out a ring for 29 bucks. I'd never seen anything like it, and I've neve rseen anything liek Angie, that's the idea, isn't it? Get something that has meaning.

So there was no argument in the motor home?
Angelina: We'd never have an argument in a Winnebago. We'd be way to happy.
Billy Bob: And, frankly, we don't have arguments. If I did anything to hurt her, I'd expect her to kick my ass.
Angelina: He'd do the same thing to me. I'd want him to.

You must be aware of how your marriage is percieved by th public-that people expect you to spontaneously combust.
Angelina: We might. But it'll be from the sex.
Billy Bob: Spontaneous combustion is totally possible. But it'll be together.
Angelina: All the reasons people think it won't last are all the rasons why they know deep down we're perfect for ach other.

In the months before your wedding-and just in general-there were rumors that you, Angelina, were hooked on heroin and headed for rehab. True or False?
Angelina: False. I'm also not sleeping with my brother. The truth is that befpore [Bilyl Bob and I] finally got together, I wa sliving without him and not happy and dealing with a lot of stuff in my life that was normal life stuff about being lonely and crazy. Rumors about all that-the reality is they aren't funny. It's a serious illness. I would hope that if I ever did need treatment, which I won't, but-
Billy Bob: I want to interrupt. I like to say things that are true and say them hard. She does not take drugs.
Angelina: And he wouldn't let me.

Do you see yourselves ever having kid?
Billy Bob: That's probably going to be something we can't help. I'm sure that's probably going to just happen.
Angelina: When you're with someone and when you feel what we feel, it's very strange and shocking to me that I'm not pregnant. Except I'm on the pill. But I still think he could get through it sometime.

You're going back to England later today. how hard is that on you?
Billy Bob [gripping his beer]: I almost broke the glass.
Angelina: I write him every day. Constantly. I'm obsessive about it. If there's a thunderstorm, it's so much like him that I'm happy about getting soaked to the bone as I walk down the streets, because it feels like he's with me.

Do either of you ever get jealous?
Angelina: Oh, terribly. I would kill anyone who even looked at him the wrong way. But he has no need to be jealous.
Billy Bob: And she knows I never will.

I know you only have so much more time together, so let me ask this: We talked about how great the sex was the first time you were together. How about now?
Angelina: Want us to show you?

Please, no, I live in the Valley.
Billy Bob: No, you're going to get it, Valley boy.

Seriously. how great is the sex? Billy Bob: God, last night...
Angelina: It's amazing that we actually leave the room-ever. But you know what? IT's beautiful and I think I'm going to die every few minutes. Then I feel so complete and safe and warm and in love and then I just feel like I'm on fire and I'm so excited and I didn't know I could feel that through my entire body.

Billy Bob [to Angelina]: Let's go.

Awww, look at you.

Leaving in the past.

I know. The future scares you. So, you stay in the past.

Let the world move on without you.

You sad little sap.

no just pointing out the obvious of her repeated unoriginal approach to men. BTW. Laura Dern was still living with Billy Bob when preying matis moved in him. so there you go. not the past just nothing new.

Oh and BBT was living with his wife and kids when Laura Dern moved in. Same with Ben Harper. He was married and his wife was pregnant when Laura Dern moved in.

And oh, my GOD, all this information that you've posted, IS NOT Brand new information.

But, you're sure entertaining. And still a sad sap. Living in the past because your future is bleak.

Gotta hand it to Angelina, she's never boring.

Go Angelina!

The adoption agency that Angelina used issued the following response to clear up rumors regarding Pax’s adoption.

“In applying to adopt 3-yr-old Pax Thien, Ms. Jolie followed the same course as all prospective adoptive parents who apply to our Vietnam program. Throughout her adoption process, which began in the summer of 2006, she has received no preferential treatment from the Vietnamese government or Adoptions From The Heart, and contrary to earlier reports, her application was not fast tracked.

Despite rumors that she chose her child, Ms. Jolie received a referral, just like any other parent adopting from Vietnam. In late 2006, she was referred a child who had been legally determined to be available for adoption and who fit within the parameters for which she had been approved to adopt. She accepted the first and only referral given to her.

In addition, we can confirm the statement given by Nguyen Van Trung, Director of Tam Binh Orphanage, that Ms. Jolie has neither made, nor promised to make, any financial contributions to his orphanage. Adoptions From The Heart celebrates the miracle of adoption with the Jolie-Pitt family, as we do with all of our clients, and wish them much joy.”

– Heidi Gonzalez, Vietnam Adoption Coordinator for Adoptions From The Heart

Please use common sense, think the energy company ENRON. It is the CEO, CFO, and COO that are commiting fraud.

Jolie was NOT aware of that agency's questionable practice at the time of her 1st adoption

Please read the following article and pay attention to the last paragragh.

http://news.monstersandcritics.com/asiapacific/article_1201024.php/US_official_praises_Cambodias_progress_on_adoptions

hnom Penh - A senior US consular official said Wednesday that she was impressed with Cambodian government efforts to make adoptions of children by US citizens more transparent, raising hopes an end to the four-year US government suspension might be in sight.

Maura Harty, US assistant secretary of state, said she had met with Long Visalo, secretary of state for the Cambodian Foreign Ministry, and Deputy Prime Minister Sar Kheng on the second day of her two-day trip and had been impressed with Cambodia’s progress on the issue.

But she declined to give any further indication of if or when the ban might be lifted.

‘The most important feature of any system of adoption requires protection for the children,’ she said, adding that Cambodia’s progress in improving the international adoption system had been impressive.

Adoptions from Cambodia were suspended by the US Immigration and Naturalization Service in December 2001.

Other countries including France and Australia also suspended adoptions until they were sure concerns had been addressed, stranding many families in the process of adoption.

In July, 2004, Hawaiian woman Lauryn Galindo, then 53, who had helped hundreds of people - including actress Angelina Jolie adopt her Cambodian son Maddox - pleaded guilty to visa fraud and money laundering as part of a ring that paid poor Cambodian women as little as 100 dollars or less for their children.

A US court heard the agency, which also included Galindo’s sister Lynn Devin, then told potential adoptive parents in the US that the children were orphans and received fees of 10,000 dollars or more.

No evidence was ever found to suggest Jolie’s son was one of the children who had fallen victim to the agency’s fraudulent practices.

© 2006 dpa - Deutsche Presse-Agentur

ROTFLMAO. I love Angie

xoxoxox

to all the haters who wrote lies-

You are manufacturing articles directing at smearing Angie's reputation.

Today, you are at it again. SMEARING, more SMEARING.

Did HUVANNE (Jennifer Aniston's publicist) give you a pay raise? You sure have the stamina day after day, writing LIES.

But remember this saying, look what you’ve done “you reap what you sow”.

I do hope God has MERCY on you.

*****ATTENTION: Aniston's fans ****

I am going to consult a lawyer and also will call splash news agency about this anti-Jolie campaign.

I firmly believe this is done by ONE single person.

poster: Dancer
December 30th, 2006 at 1:09 pm

I was looking at the UNHCR site and I believe Jolie has new journal entries from her travels online: http://www.unhcr.org/help/HELP/439d4ee52.html
Some of the older ones have updated information. From the list (PDF files) since the publication of her book on Oct 1, 2003–the PDF files for Sudan, Thailand and Jordan appear to be new. I think based on the dates it is possible that Russian Federation, may also be new.

BTW for people who doubt her commitment to the refugees, there are six current ambassadors: Georgio Armani, Julien Clerc, George Dalaras, Barbara Hendricks, Adel Imam, Jolie and Osvaldo LaPort. Of the six, Jolie has 67 press releases about her activities, commitments and events compared to the next highest which is 12 for Armani and Hendricks. You don’t put the effort into supporting something like this for fame, glory and self-promotion and do more than all the others put together.

You go Angelina! You are a shining beacon of hope to the refugees of the world!

Here is a collection of opinions about Tatiana Beams

from justjared site.

poster: stranger March 6th, 2007

And, if one of her main concerns is to get more couples, unmarried and gay, to adopt, why not support and WAIT until the Jolie Pitt’s goes through , and use is as a precedent instead of pointing it out as something illegal or irregular? (Note, it turned out Ms. Beams did NOT do sufficient research)

Her actions seem to show that she does not wish for this adoption to take place. It makes no sense to me.

^^^^^

poster: dragonfly

My sentiments exactly! If that is her true purpose, then she would be supporting high-profile adoptions such as the Jolie-Pitts’, not trying to throw stumbling blocks in their path.

Support how successful their case is and use it to help others. Perhaps even trying to partner with the agencies and government officials to change the law? NO, she supports so vehemently a law she supposedly doesn’t believe in.

Why isn’t she squawking about trying to have the law changed and holding the J-P’s up as an example instead of blabbing to some gossip rag like Page Six?

A true international adoption advocate would be speaking through other more reputable venues, and would be involved in other organizations.

Because this isn’t about supporting successful cases of international adoption, this is about BASHING Angelina.

I am sure Brad and Angie’s lawyers are indeed aware of all this and more and do not need us to do their work for them, but it sure is nice to know that the media is being sent a message the the fans are not to be under-estimated. The media seems to think we are all easily duped by smokescreens and rhetorical verbage, that they can feed us any ol’ rotten tomato and we will eat it up.

Time after time here at Justjared’s site, that notion is proven wrong, because you guys (the fans at JJ) are proof that there are still people in the world who can think for themselves and do their own research. Way to go, ya’ll!

oh quick hurry! get the lawyers on this one! you little freaks. hurry oh yes everyone is breading the law!!It's called the First Ammendment you losers. GOOGLE IT! Here: you better go after this lady. Her Name is Gina Serpe. GOOGLE HER! HA!

Angelina Adoption Fast Tracked
by Gina Serpe
Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:22:21 AM PDT

Good things don't always come to those who wait. Sometimes good things come to those who breeze through the entire process.

According to one of Vietnam's top adoption officials, Angelina Jolie's adoption application is being processed with such haste—by the books haste, that is—that the star could be united with her chosen son within a few weeks.

Vu Duc Long, the media-friendly director of Vietnam's International Adoption Department, told the Associated Press Tuesday that Jolie will in all likelihood be able to pick up her three-and-a-half-year-old son by the end of the month.

Ho Chi Minh City officials are currently in the process of reviewing Jolie's single-mother application for the boy, whom she met and selected during a trip to the capital city's Tam Binh orphanage last November.

According to Long, Jolie will be able to pick up the boy, described by Tam Binh director Nguyen Van Trung as being both "in good health" and "a little bit shy," any time after her application is approved.

Trung told the AP that the boy, whose name has not been released, gets along well with the other children at the orphanage, where he was brought as a baby after being found abandoned at a Ho Chi Minh City hospital, and that he loves playing soccer.

Which already sounds a perfect fit for would-be papa Brad Pitt, who quipped to E! News' Ryan Seacrest at the Golden Globes that he and Jolie would stop adopting kids when they had enough to fill their own soccer team.

While Jolie filed for adoption as a single parent, the paperwork is merely a technicality and will likely be amended, post-adoption, to include Pitt—much like the couple did with fellow adoptive children Maddox, five, and Zahara, two.

Vietnamese law prohibits unmarried couples from adopting, limiting the scope of their prospective parents to either "one single person or one married couple."

As for the new sibling, who will be the duo's fourth child but falls just below five-year-old Maddox in the age hierarchy (Shiloh brings up the rear at just 10 months), his adoption took less time than most—four months is the typical wait in Vietnam—due to both his advanced age of almost four years, as well as the fact that his file was nearly completed prior to Jolie's decision to adopt, per Trung.

While the entire process kicked off months ago, it was only two weeks ago that Long revealed Jolie had filed an application for adoption. Last week, he let slip that the stork delivery would be a boy.

And, lest the latest celebrity adoption kick off a Madonna-like wave of controversy, Trung told the AP that the Tam Binh staff had tried, and failed, to find the boy's birth parents.

OH HERE'S another one you can GO AFTER! His name is: Chris Atkins. GOOGLE HIM! How dare he share his opinion NOOOOOO how can he possibly know anything about adoption as ALL OF YOU are sooooo educated?!!! Go get him... get him. Discredit him for speaking out. He must be evil and bent on bashing JOLIE. Oh yes. That's it. You have everyone figured out. Hahahaha.

OH yeah, BTW when was the last time any of you freaks were quoted anywhere. Why aren't these so called lame rags calling you up? How about the Wash Post? No huh. why not. You're so smart. 60 minutes? nup. Enquirer? Star?US? nup. Okay. That's what I thought.

Article:

Abandoned at birth, he was called Pham Quang Sang before being renamed by Miss Jolie. Pax is Latin for peace and Thien is Vietnamese for heaven.

Nguyen Van Trung, director of the Tam Binh orphanage, said the child, who was 'shy', had cried when Miss Jolie came to take him away.

"They tried to make friends with him but he cried when he saw them because for him they are strangers," he said.

"Jolie was very moved and tried to comfort the little boy."

Adoption experts warned the child could suffer long-term trauma as a result of being taken away from his birthplace and familiar faces.

Chris Atkins, of the Transnational and

Transracial Adoption Group which specialises in adoptions abroad, said: "By the age of three most children have a very good understanding of the space and people around them.

"This child is going to know something is changing drastically in his life and will not have been prepared. He has been taken away by someone who does not speak his language, put on a plane for the first time in his life and taken to a strange country.

"It will be utterly alien to him. In normal adoptions the prospective parents spend time with the child first."

Mr Atkins added: "She has managed to circumvent the legislation that is there to protect children from people like her. Clearly money talks and celebrity talks."

The child will need a medical check-up before he can receive a US visa.

It is thought the process will be completed by the weekend.

He will join five-year-old Maddox, who was adopted from Cambodia as a baby, two-year-old Zahara from Ethiopia and Miss Jolie's daughter with Pitt, ninemonthold Shiloh.

At nearly four, he is the oldest child Miss Jolie has adopted.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=442271&in_page_id=1773&ct=5

Mr Atkins added: “She has managed to circumvent the legislation that is there to protect children from people like her. Clearly money talks and celebrity talks.”

Rock ON Mr.Atkins! Another brave soul reveals the truth behind the she-witch!
Thank you!

Go Angelina!

Keep pissing these people off and living your life.

They don't have the balls to do the same. Only to sit on the sidelines and bitch and moan while they watch you get on with yours.

Go Angelina!

There will always be tabloid articles. That's why we have education to train our brain to decipher what is FACT/TABLOID.

Once again I am posting the article written by the director of Jolie's adoption agency which clarified a lot of the RUMOR on the INTERNET .

Date: March 16, 2007

The adoption agency that Angelina used issued the following response to clear up rumors regarding Pax’s adoption.

“In applying to adopt 3-yr-old Pax Thien, Ms. Jolie followed the same course as all prospective adoptive parents who apply to our Vietnam program. Throughout her adoption process, which began in the summer of 2006, she has received NO preferential treatment from the Vietnamese government or Adoptions From The Heart, and contrary to earlier reports, her application was NOT fast tracked.

Despite rumors that she chose her child, Ms. Jolie received a referral, just like any other parent adopting from Vietnam. In late 2006, she was referred a child who had been legally determined to be available for adoption and who fit within the parameters for which she had been approved to adopt. She accepted the first and only referral given to her.

In addition, we can CONFIRM the statement given by Nguyen Van Trung, Director of Tam Binh Orphanage, that Ms. Jolie has NEITHER made, NOR promised to make, any financial contributions to his orphanage. Adoptions From The Heart celebrates the miracle of adoption with the Jolie-Pitt family, as we do with all of our clients, and wish them much joy.”

– Heidi Gonzalez, Vietnam Adoption Coordinator for Adoptions From The Heart

*************

Adoptions from the Heart
http://www.adoptionsfromtheheart.org/

1-800-355-5500

Adoptions From The Heart is a private, non-profit, non-sectarian adoption agency, licensed in Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Delaware, Virginia, and West Virginia, and approved for placing children with Connecticut families.

LEARN TO READ TATIANA BEAMS BEFORE YOU SPEAK TO THE PRESS.

poster: beams is a fool (justjared site)

March 17th, 2007 at 6:41 pm

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Contact: Laura Feragen

Toplin & Associates, Inc.

215-793-4666

215-287-6259 (after hours)

Angelina Jolie’s Adoption Agency Issues Statement

WYNNEWOOD, Pa. – March 15, 2007 - Heidi Gonzalez, Vietnam Adoption
Coordinator for Adoptions From The Heart, has issued the following response to
inquiries regarding Angelina Jolie’s adoption from Vietnam.

“In applying to adopt 3-yr-old Pax Thien, Ms. Jolie followed the same course as all
prospective adoptive parents who apply to our Vietnam program. Throughout her
adoption process, which began in the summer of 2006, she has received no preferential treatment from the Vietnamese government or Adoptions From The Heart, and, contrary to earlier reports, her application was not fast-tracked.

Despite rumors that she chose her child, Ms. Jolie received a referral, just like any other parent adopting from Vietnam. In late 2006, she was referred a child who had been legally determined to be available for adoption and who fit within the parameters for which she had been approved to adopt. She accepted the first and only referral given to her.

In addition, we can confirm the statement given by Nguyen Van Trung, Director of Tam Binh Orphanage, that Ms. Jolie has neither made, nor promised to make, any financial contributions to his orphanage.

Adoptions From The Heart celebrates the miracle of adoption with the Jolie-Pitt family, as we do with all of our clients, and wishes them much joy.”

Background:

• Adoptions From The Heart (AFTH) is a licensed, non-profit agency offering domestic and international adoption. Based in Wynnewood, Pa., a Philadelphia suburb, the agency has 12 offices, and is licensed in PA, NJ, DE, VA, WV and NY, and approved to place children with
families in CT.

• Founded in 1985, by Maxine Chalker, an adoptee herself and former adoption social worker, who serves as executive director. AFTH has earned a reputation for pioneering innovative services to improve the overall adoption process, including being one of the first agencies on the East Coast more than a decade ago to begin offering the option of international adoption - well ahead of the rapidly growing trend. Today, AFTH works with orphanages throughout Asia, Europe and South America.

• AFTH had placed 250 Vietnamese children from 1995 to 2003, when the Vietnamese government closed the program. In April 2006, when Vietnam reopened adoption to the U.S., AFTH received became licensed in Ho Chi Minh City to place children. Since then, 30 families have completed adoptions through AFTH; 22 others are in various stages of the process currently with referrals, and still more are on a waiting list.

• AFTH currently works with four orphanages in Vietnam, including Tam Binh, from which Angelina Jolie adopted.

• AFTH facilitators work directly with the Department of International Adoption (DIA) in Hanoi, the Ministry of Justice and the orphanages to process the required paperwork and help facilitate adoptions through the Vietnamese government. In Vietnam, facilitators escort families to appointments with USCIS (U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services), the U.S. Embassy and required doctor visits. They arrange tours and generally accommodate families’ needs while they are in Vietnam.

• AFTH has provided ongoing humanitarian aid to the orphanages with which it works, including such current projects as helping to offset daily expenses at Tam Binh orphanage, and funding construction of a new emergency room at Go Vap orphanage, creation of a “milk room” that connects to the infant room at Thi Nghe orphanage, and the purchase of new furniture for the Picasso orphanage.

• Jolie was referred to AFTH by Jane Aronson, MD, a New York-based pediatrician who specializes in adoption medicine and treated Jolie’s Ethiopian adopted daughter Zahara.
*****

LEARN TO READ TATIANA BEAMS BEFORE YOU SPEAK TO THE PRESS.

and this has what to do with what Tatiana Beams said? Nothing. How about this guy? Wow you guys are rabid freaks. The woman had like 3 lines of quotes. Let it go. There are whole articles about what a nut your hero is and about all the laws she sidesteps. Are you too afraid to approach them? Scared of Mr. Atkins are you? I think HIS quote is fu*ki*g awesome and waaaay more interesting than contradiction of law blah blah blah. Mr. Atkins cuts to the chase.. Children should be protected form Jolie types!!HA!

Mr Atkins added: “She has managed to circumvent the legislation that is there to protect children from people like her. Clearly money talks and celebrity talks.”

Thats Mr. Atkins from the Transracial Adoption Group. Is he fabricated too? BTW that press release was released waaaaay after the Post article. bawhahahahahahaha! LEARN TO READ THE DATES LOONS!

Angelina managed to circumvent the legislation that is there to protect children from people like her!!!!
Oh God. that is so damn funny and so perfect. god Bless Mr. Atkins. I'm going to go start a blog for him.i just gotta read it over and over. so perfect.I gotta go now .freak loons enjoy yourselves and your wadded panties.

I guess it's night night time for the loons.Tonight's a school night. shhhhhh.

I feel it's important for the public to be careful when one reads on the internet.

poster: Christina from Finland (justjared site)

......I cannot believe what is wrong with the media. They have so much power and I think it is so sad that journalists are not what they should be (speakers for truth and suppliers of information) anymore but only money makers for magazines.

In the Internet it has gone very bad. I don’t call these people journalists anymore. You cannot quote someone if it is not exactly the same than the original and taken out of the context.

Where we need the media anymore if we cannot trust what it is saying?

Geez you people are certifiably crazy!!
I was lead to this blog not by celebrity news on Jolie or Pitt, not by info on adoption, but by the issue of CRAZED OBSEESED FANS.
Lots of celebs have enthusiastic fan bases, but do you guys are way over the line
Do you realize you actually have a fast growing reputation for being the craziest fanclub ever? I'm seeing it talked about more and more on celeb gossip sites.
The worst part is that people are associating Jolie with you thinking only someone who is crazy herself could attract such crazy followers.

You need to take this quote from a previous poster seriously.....
''If you are true fans then consider your position and just how you wish to represent your star. You’ve made it very clear to me and it’s not stable''

If Angelina was a paedophile that would be alright? Because she's got tons of money it makes everything fine. Laws are there to protect the children so that the prospective parent(s) can be properly vetted in oirder to ensure that those with suspicious motives are not handed a child without proper checks. I do not want anyone bitching at me that oh Ange has a loving heart or is a wonderful person...actually she should be subjected to the same checks as everyone else. Anyone wonder why she hasn't adopted in America? And don't say that only foreign kiddies are deprived...there are many children in USA that are desperate for homes.

I agree with poster number 163. Seems that Tatiana is being crucified by a bunch of overly subjective Angelina Jolie fans. You cant mess about with the welfare of a child. Actually Jolie would not be allowed to adopt in America. Why? Well her history of mental health problems and related issues would never let her. Also, when has she ever lived anywhere for long enough to be assessed as suitable?

Angelina was approved for adoption in the US before she decided on Cambodia. She spoke of this in a Rolling Stone article years ago. I have worked with adoption and her mental health issues? 25% of the population MOL has suffered from some form -that is accepted as fact. Suffering from depression, as Angelina did as a teenager and young adult, would not exclude her from adopting. "Related issues?" Please keep in mind that tabloid speculation is not documented fact. She has spoken of cutting, which as many as 10% of teen girls, if not more, do. She has not been treated for addiction, she has not been convicted of a felony.

The idea that people still speak of "why doesn't she adopt from the US?" boggles my mind. I'm not sure if it is willful blindness in the name of patriotism, or an all out form of racism. It comes down to this: do you walk by the kid who needs help more because of where he was born?

I disagree with Ms. Beam's assertion that adoptive parents are not heros. I believe that all loving parents, adoptive or not, are heros.

Despite the claims that Angelina's fans are whacked out, I see mostly well written posts that are backed up with information and facts, as opposed to those who can only presume to know her motivation. Every fan base has a few nuts, but I don't see any indication that Angelina's has more than others- unless you refer to the fanatics who are clearly obsessed with her as fans.

I do not think the backlash that Ms. Beam is seeing has to do with what she said, per say (so quoting others is moot). I think it has to do with the obvious attempt to exploit Angelina's adoption- which should be nothing but a joyful time for their family- for her gain. I can appreciate anyone's passion for wanting to see adoption be easier for qualified people, but to do so in a manner that drags the topic down to the tabloid level is suspect.

I also agree with the common sense comment about using Angelina and Brad's situation as precedent. Any lawyer worth his salt would do that. Does Ms. Beam not have a lawyer to help her as she guides families who are going through a legal process that is by her own admission rife with roadblocks and sometimes corruption?

For a so called advocate you are so onion skinned, Ms. Beams. You throw inflammatory statements and when people questions the logic of your arguments and counters your allegations with facts, you cry foul?

In one of your posts, you just likened an adoptive mother to a dictator. The problem with you is that you make parallelisms when its like comparing apples to oranges. Where's your sense of fair play? What are you trying to prove? What are your motives?

Where's the credibility you're trying to build when you go from one blog to another and rant? Where are you going with this?

I hope you will ponder on this - IGNORANCE OF THE LAW EXCUSES NO ONE.

''In one of your posts, you just likened an adoptive mother to a dictator''

no she didn't.
The obsessed Jolie fans are now posting under Ms. Beams name on various blogs in an attempt to make her look bad and as crazy as they are.

167 Comment by Mason

Suffice to say it was her. She even have to audacity to ask the blog owner one time to have some of the responses to her post removed.

Tatiatia Beams, please read the following, do your research before ATTACKINGING Jolie.

From Rainbowkids.com, an online adoption newsletter:

Angelina Jolie’s Adoption
The Media’s Obsession and the Truth
April 01,2007 / Martha Osborne

Everyone, including my own mother, knows by now that Angelina Jolie traveled to Vietnam in March and adopted a 3-year-old little boy from the Tam Binh orphanage in Vietnam . The world seems glued to the drama of this mega-star and her adoption of her son,. Pax Thien Jolie.

There’s been quite an uproar in the adoption community. Email lists, bulletin boards and phones are alight with questions and speculation. And yet the general press appears frequently to get the story half-right, or never to address the questions closest to our hearts. We adoptive families are both part of the general populace, and also a world unto ourselves. The masses may wonder about this movie-star-mom growing her family in ‘alternate’ ways, while the adoptive community hosts quite a different range of inquiries. Questions such as:

* Did Angelina choose her child? (the answer is no )
* Why did Angelina only spend a week in Vietnam while other adoptive families spend 2-3 weeks processing their paperwork?
* How did Angelina adopt a child as a single parent when she was living with Brad Pitt?
* Did Angelina pay to expedite her adoption?
* Are Brad and Angelina adopting to expand their fame?

In the big picture, there is one side of this story; the story the entire world will hear and unfortunately, believe. In our world, there is the following story. One which involves most of those involved in this adoption and which I know to be the truth after talking to many of the parties involved. But first, let us be fair and address the history of this situation. In the end, all of the questions will be answered.

The unfortunate tabloid-fueled presentation to the world is this: Angelina Jolie: Movie Star and Collector of Children , went to Vietnam on a whim, ended up arbitrarily visiting an orphanage in November of 2006, picked out a child to add to her string of multicultural kids, and paid bribes to the Vietnamese government and to an US adoption agency to make it happen fast.

This is clichéd fiction that people accumulatively pay millions in magazine prices to read.

The truth is, Angelina Jolie is the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) Goodwill Ambassador and mother of 4, three through adoption. As a UNHCR Goodwill Ambassador, Angelina uses her status as a superstar to generate media coverage about the plight of refugees and the conditions under which they live. She has traveled widely to remote refugee camps and receiving centers in countries including Tanzania, Namibia, Cambodia, Pakistan, Thailand, and Ecuador.

She has met thousands of men, women, and children forced to flee from their homes and struggle to survive as refugees. “You go to these places and you realize what life’s really about and what people are really going through,” says Angelina. “These people are my heroes.”

As adoptive parents, knowing this about Ms. Jolie, why wouldn’t we understand her desire, on a much more private level, to make a difference in the lives of the children that she so often witnessed suffering?

When adopting Maddox, Ms. Jolie had been filming in Cambodia for nearly a year; Living and working day-by-day with the people of that country. Nothing actually divides Ms. Jolie from any of us, except that generally Americans have grown used to our movie stars being dysfunctional, political, self-aggrandizing personalities. So how do we handle a mega-star adopting? A truly crazy-famous, strong, intelligent activist woman who chooses to build her life and family in her own style?

I believe the answer is: we follow her example. We embrace that which does no harm, but only seeks to promote the welfare of children. Many will argue that adopting as an unmarried couple negates the good of giving a child a family. Though on one side this may appear to be a moral issue, the question also must be asked, Who will parent all the children in orphanages?

Surely, loving this or any child cannot be wrong. And legally, since Ms. Jolie is not married she had to adopt as a single parent. Vietnamese law states that you have to be single or a married couple (man/woman) - since she isn’t married she had to adopt single. The requirements of Vietnam do not state that you can’t live with anyone. Each agency must make their own choice of whom they will accept as applicants. And each family must also choose: how will they grow?

For Ms. Jolie and Mr. Brad Pitt, the answer has been more complicated than what the world may view as ‘normal’. But as adoptive parents, how can we not embrace their choices? After visiting numerous orphanages and privately saying to myself, “If only I had the finances,” and finding myself wanting to do so much more, I know I am not alone in understanding how someone could choose this eclectic but fulfilling way to build a family. How much more so it must be for someone who regularly travels to refugee homes and orphanages to do humanitarian work?

However, the world press, those who crushed her windshield while in Vietnam, attacked her car, released private information to the world including her new son’s passport and her adoption papers, they AREN'T interested in you hearing about her good works, the supported schools, AIDS programs, new water wells or medical programs for orphans. You’ve heard their version of this story already.

Now I’m going to tell you the real story.

In the early summer of 2006, Ms. Angelina Jolie: Mother, Partner and parent with Brad Pitt, movie star and humanitarian worker was visiting with her daughter Zahara’s pediatrician, Dr. Jane Aronson.

Ms. Jolie had already gone through the homestudy process, approving her to adopt internationally. Dr. Jane is the founder of Worldwide Orphans Foundation (did you really think I could resist a plug for a wonderful charity?) which has done amazing work with orphans in Ethiopia . Dr. Jane has also adopted from Vietnam and Ethiopia . However the conversation may have gone, a call was soon made to the Pennsylvania adoption agency, Adoptions from the Heart .

“It was truly fate,” Vietnam adoption coordinator for AFTH Heidi Gonzalez reports. “This 3-year-old boy from Vietnam had been living in his orphanage since shortly after his birth. Our agency had (just prior to Ms. Jolie’s inquiry) recently received his referral and the report of what a wonderful little boy he is. His file was on my desk at the moment I received the call. Despite what others may believe, this was the first and only child presented to Ms. Jolie. It was meant to be.”

Adoptions from the Heart accepted the challenging opportunity to assist this young boy in finding his family. “We have been working with Vietnam since 1995. There were years when we supported the children and orphanages when adoption was closed to the US . Every child is precious to us, and we work for the best interest of each child, regardless of whether or not adoption is in his or her future,” Ms. Gonzalez stated.

In November of 2006, Ms. Jolie visited her son’s orphanage, though she knew her adoption was months away from being complete. “She chose to visit the toddler room in general, not to single him out,” shared Ms. Gonzalez, “in January she knew it was getting close, and she visited individually with Pax to begin the bonding process.” By this time, the Vietnam government had Ms. Jolie’s CIS approval and the first leak of the adoption had reached the world-wide press.

“Before that time, there were only two people in our office who knew of the adoption. Her file was kept under lock and key in my office,” said Ms. Gonzalez. Security, lawyers, hand-carrying documents and working with personal assistants were the norm. So, was this adoption that much different from others?

“Looking back, I guess you might see it that way. But on a day-to-day basis, not really. We had a single mom who was focused on her child. She wanted to make sure he was cared for and safe and the side-bar was keeping the news of the adoption from the media. She was doing a movie in India for part of the process and on a few hours notice she would fly in, exhausted, to re-do fingerprints or do one last homestudy update,” said Ms. Gonzalez, “The biggest difference was when it was time to travel for the actual adoption. We had to work with her security team and Vietnam, run through the process with them for when she would arrive, look at the security risks in each location and figure out how to minimize any problems. That was definitely different.”

The hardest part for everyone involved materialized in Ho Chi Minh City . The reports of the ridiculous actions of the press were understated. They attacked her car, breaking the windshield, attempting to puncture the tires in order to take more photos, relentlessly invading the cherished time that most adoptive parents, and presumably Ms. Jolie as well, see as priceless: That in-country bonding week or two. It was not possible to be just another adoptive parent. She had to be Angelina Jolie The Movie Star . Her adoption signing was accompanied by the Vietnamese press, she was requested to submit to being interviewed by a Vietnamese government newspaper just hours after receiving her son, and gracefully accepted being photographed for hours with government officials. She was there to adopt a childa private personal experience that was very special to her and to all adoptive parents.

And she missed it. She didn’t get that precious, private experience.

“She really had no problem doing interviews or sharing her photos. She had her own photographer with her, and simply asked that the privacy of all her children be respected. She wanted to have the process be special and private for her family. Unfortunately she didn’t have that opportunity,” said Ms. Gonzalez.

Imagine if you were in a taxi with your newest child on your lap, your cherished toddler to whom you had longed to show your love and bring into your family. Strangers were attacking the car, their mouths screaming, faces contorted, and cameras flashing into the cab of the vehicle. The world appears to desire to blame the Star. The person who wishes to build her family in a similar way that we adoptive-families build our own.

Are we part of that world? As individuals in the adoption community, we should band together and support all people who build their families through adoption.

Although accused of requesting and receiving preferential treatment due to only spending one week in Vietnam after the adoption of Pax (the normal time is 2 1/2 weeks), the truth is that the Vietnamese passport office processed Pax’s passport in one day DUE to the media’s outrageous and destructive behavior. Ms. Jolie and her family left only after it was apparent that there would be NO ability to explore Vietnam as a family, and airline ticket dates were changed for everyone.

The final question, the one many silently contemplate is this:

“What sort of Normal life will Pax Thien Jolie, or any of the children of Mega Movie Stars, live?”

I imagine that it will not be ‘normal’, as I or many others may see it. Or maybe it will. It all depends on how you look at the situation. But is that so terrible? Millions of people live normal lives. They’re not UN representatives. They don’t raise funds for AIDS orphans in Ethiopia, or drill wells for clean drinking water. I know of lots of normal and not-so-normal people who are to be admired. But the ones I respect most, all seem to have the same name and title:
Mom.

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doesnt that cow know that angelina adopted pax by herself then brad adopted him get your information straight before you make accusations like that.