Baldwin bringing discipline back?
3:49 Thursday, April 19, 2007
A lot of people are freaking out about this Alec Baldwin phone call to his daughter Ireland due to the severity of the language but we only have one side of the story here. We have no idea how many times Baldwin has tried to call his daughter. We have no idea how much or if Basinger is meddling with his visitation and custody (probably)? And we really don't know what is going on behind the scenes of their custody battle.
Now ask yourself, why and how this tape was made available to the public? Alec Baldwin certainly didn't release this. Imagine if every conversation you had with your kids or parents was taped and then held against you? I think the majority of us would be screwed.
At least he cares about his daughter's behavior and conduct. How many celebrity parents look the other way while their kids dabble in drugs, wreck cars, bang half of Hollywood and hit the bars underage? So many that it has become normal for the children of Hollywood to be in some sort of trouble.
I in no way condone calling a child a "rude, thoughtless little pig" (although kids sometimes are) but we see way worse parenting behavior on Nanny 911 and in the trailer parks of Alabama.*
*If you live in Alabama substitute the pan handle of Florida.


























At least people from Alabama don't condone child abuse, like Splash News obviously does.
There is no excuse to speak to a child that way. It's sad to see anyone making Ireland out to be the bad guy in this. She's an innocent child. How do you know she has a behavior problem? Maybe she just didn't want to speak to an abusive man.
All the Baldwins are batshit crazy and he's the worst.
There was no need for him to call her names like that. he sounded so angry.. I would be afraid to answer the phone too.
Being FROM Alabama, I am sick and tired of people from my state being used as bad examples! At least the people here don't pee on the street like they do, say in New York City! And yes, we do believe in discipline. If you don't lead a child down the right path and teach them, how the heck are they going to be able to tell right from wrong. While his words might have been a bit strong, at least he didn't use a coat hanger on her!
There's never an excuse to call an 11 year old little girl a pig.
Hey Alabama, why didn't you insert florida pan handle or one of your other toothless and out house using neighbors and laugh like the rest of us?
please people. how many of you have teenagers? little shits, and add a interfering bitch mother into the mix and it's no wonder. he didnt call her anything that bad, for god's sake. most teenagers are selfish little pigs, and kim is a bitch for leaking this. lost all respect for her completely. Children are not weapons, and it is pretty obvious that ms. Bitchinger is using her daughter as one
i've seen women use children against men who truly just want to be involved. it's disgusting, and i feel terrible for poor alec, who was obviously just frustrated. how would you feel, people? this is what happens in divorce, especially with someone as petty, and vindictive as kim obviously is. by the way...what the hell does the rest of his family have to do with this issue???????????? yeah, kim seems really sane
Yes, it's Mammy,
Home from Alabammy,
With your little Sammy.
My Mammy used to call me a dirty skunk.
That was 1955.
They'll never find her.
There's a Regal 12 Cinema on top of where I buried her.
:D
tsk tsk tsk Splash
If someone would deal with Paris, Lindsey & the others imagine how boring our world would be.
She's probably that way due because her parents being have been at each other's throats for years.
Your view is controversial but I agree with you. Alec was simply speaking his mind. How many parents speak their minds to their kid's faces on a daily basis when provoked? It's just that their conversations don't get recorded. His language may not have been completely appropriate but it does at least show he cares about what this daughter does and how she acts. He is even prepared to fly back across the country for a day to sort this out. And while this may be embarassing for Baldwin, imagine how humiliating this is for the girl. And whose fault is this - Alec's for losing his cool with his daughter - or someone else who leaked the tape!!!! And who did release that tape?
The judge should find out whoever leaked that tape and then send them to the county jail for a couple of months for contempt of court. its unfair on that poor little girl to have to go through this crap. why have this private family matter played out in the media?
Are those dress shoes he's wearing with track suit pants???
Great writing Chris! Great post. You are finally becoming a journalist (although still sorely lacking in fashion reporting). But this post was one of your best editorials.
For #15 "comment by B"---
No, you idiot, those are not dress shoes. Those are ballet flats and are this spring's hottest new trend. Doesn't anybody know anything on this site?
What the L? :D They're Ferragamo hand-tooled black calf dress loafers.
I can't believe you would say you only heard one side of the story! This man has no right to speak to ANYONE in this way much less a child he professes to love! He is obviously sick! Does anyone have flashbacksof the O.J. Simpson tapes? Alec needs to be taken seriously as a threat.
I just read the other posts and this does NOT need to be kept private. It should be leaked to the press. This man is a threat to his daughter. Normal parents get upset with thier kids but don't leave messages like that. Kim Basinger left him for a reason and I applaud her for getting her and her daughter out of a dangerous marriage!
Interesting how we can hide behind ranting posts in judgement of this man. I agree with Chris - we don't know both sides of their story. How may of us can say that we have not lost our cool with our kids' "oh so cool" behavior at some point? It sounds to me that Kim Basinger is bent on painting her ex as a villain for whatever reason. It seems the daughter is bent on keeping her parents fighting to distract them from catching a whiff of what she might be up to. It seems that Alec is at the height of frustration with the games.
when ur right, ur right. I have an 11 yr old boy. And I sat there thinking of the things if said to him, although never a worthless pig, but things im ashamed of. EVERY PARENT has...Im no Alec Baldwin fan, but I know the frustration...
I've seen Alec with Ireland several times. He appeared to be a loving caring dad. And she seemed happy. However, I have a teenager in a NYC public high school. She can be a pill. And her classmates?...Oh dear Lord! Kim Basinger is a nut. Period. Ireland probably had that blasting coming. At that moment, "pig" was probably the nicest thing he could have called. Her mom she be called worst.
I don't think that Chris is condoning Alec's actions or taking sides. The thoughts expressed here are a call to not judge unless you know the whole story. Having a divorce myself I've felt the frustration of not having your child with you and never having any say in how they are raised. That doesn't make Alec's statements acceptable or right, but it does give you some understanding of the frustration. If some our "bad moments" were aired to the world I'm pretty sure that we would look like complete a**holes just like he does. I hope, for the sake of Ireland, this never happens or is handed to the world like this again.
I loved Kim getting naked in that porno 9 1/2 weeks.
this country is raising a generation of wussies. People got nothing better to do than to judge others family matters. Do you know why crime committed by children, teens and young adults are climbing? cus no one's allow to teach their own kids any more. It's BS. Kids now have so much more availible to em and they don't realize how good they have it, they become spoil cus our world is taking the power aways from the parents and giving it to the kids when they still don't know what's right or wrong. I got yelled at and my ass beat like no tomorrow when I was a kid, and I hated it back then, but now... I thank my parents because I deserved it.
At least he didn't say she was from Alabama. That would be crossing the line.
PS
Stereotypes come from somewhere.....
I'm white and I can't dance.
See, told you.
I'm not even going to ready most of the comments because I'm sure it's just going to say, "OMG! What an awful father! Suspend his visitation immediately!" or some stupid crap like that.
ANY parent who is honest will admit to screaming at their kid at one point or another. I've done it. I've regretted it. I've apologized profusely later because I felt like crap. I don't beat my kid. I didn't see this guy beating her either. Come on already! It happens. I'm not perfect. I make mistakes and so does EVERYONE. I try again next time to be better. I'm sure this guy will for sure! Everything he says is taped! Now he knows.
But taking the kid away from her dad will only send the message that daddy is bad and she can get away with anything she wants. That's better? I think not. Or was that the plan? Probably.
So try again. Be better. 'Nuff said. This whole thing imo has been totally overblown by the self-righteous who never made a mistake ever. Yeah right!
"So just look at them and sigh and know they love you." - Crosby, Stills & Nash
You are just as crazy as that abuser Baldwin is. This little girl will be in rehab in a couple of years and or pregnant becasue she is looking for love and acceptance from a father figure. Discipline? This is abuse. Discipline is teaching what the person did wrong - how to correct it and if necessary punishing the BEHAVIOR. Attacking the child's character, body image and self esteem is abuse not discipline and I have both been and been the parent of teenage girls. This child is not yet a teenager - she is still a child.